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The discussion centers on the perceived corruption of high-ranking officials, particularly President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, with calls for their removal from office. Participants express a desire to hold these individuals accountable for actions such as misleading Congress regarding the Iraq war and other alleged misconduct. Specific charges suggested include malfeasance, high crimes, and misleading Congress about the reasons for war. The Plame affair is mentioned as a potential avenue for charges against Cheney. The conversation also touches on the impeachment process, comparing Bush and Cheney's actions to past impeachments, particularly that of Bill Clinton, emphasizing the political nature of impeachment and the challenges of achieving it in a Republican-controlled Congress. Participants argue that the severity of Bush's actions warrants serious legal consequences, including potential treason for misleading the public about the Iraq war. The discussion reflects a strong sentiment for accountability and reform in government, with some advocating for a revolutionary change rather than just impeachment.
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normally i dislike talking politics because no one ever agrees about it, but i cannot stay silent any longer.

As a former demonstrator for civil rights who was threatened by racists and beaten by police in the 1960's for opposing segregation and the war in Vietnam, it is more than embarrassing to me for the US be asked by the UN to close our prisons in guantanamo and to stop rendering people away to foreign sites where they may be tortured.

Under this government we have become essentially the people we claim to oppose. This government is indeed the Taliban of the US.

I think George Bush is the worst president in my memory, and I never thought I would say that after Nixon.

This president has done more to diminish the moral authority of the US in the world than anyone has done in the last maybe 100 years. I clearly understand how and why people in other countries hate us after this. Even right wing conservative Republicans have turned against this clown on the issue of wiretapping.

This is not as serious, but now he is going to empanel a committee to study math education in the US. That's all we need, a complete moron who cannot even speak English competently, taking over math education. Under his idiotic "no child left behind" crieteria, the most talented and accomplished students I have ever had cannot be hired as teachers because the criteria are designed for imbeciles.

The only thing he espouses that I agree with is the right of emigrants, even illegal ones, who contribute to our society, to become citizens. Please turn out and vote this gang of evil idiots out of office as soon as possible. It is not enough just to argue about it online.
 
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  • #93
mathwonk said:
normally i dislike talking politics because no one ever agrees about it, but i cannot stay silent any longer.

As a former demonstrator for civil rights who was threatened by racists and beaten by police in the 1960's for opposing segregation and the war in Vietnam, it is more than embarrassing to me for the US be asked by the UN to close our prisons in guantanamo and to stop rendering people away to foreign sites where they may be tortured.

Under this government we have become essentially the people we claim to oppose. This government is indeed the Taliban of the US.

I think George Bush is the worst president in my memory, and I never thought I would say that after Nixon.

This president has done more to diminish the moral authority of the US in the world than anyone has done in the last maybe 100 years. I clearly understand how and why people in other countries hate us after this. Even right wing conservative Republicans have turned against this clown on the issue of wiretapping.

This is not as serious, but now he is going to empanel a committee to study math education in the US. That's all we need, a complete moron who cannot even speak English competently, taking over math education. Under his idiotic "no child left behind" crieteria, the most talented and accomplished students I have ever had cannot be hired as teachers because the criteria are designed for imbeciles.

The only thing he espouses that I agree with is the right of emigrants, even illegal ones, who contribute to our society, to become citizens. Please turn out and vote this gang of evil idiots out of office as soon as possible. It is not enough just to argue about it online.

Thanks for your candid views mathwonk. What puzzles me is that this clown managed to get elected to a second term of office. Obviously, he must have support, and it's not just from a fringe group of crazies, it must be from a large group (even a majority) of the people. How can people be so misguided?
 
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Curious3141 said:
Thanks for your candid views mathwonk. What puzzles me is that this clown managed to get elected to a second term of office. Obviously, he must have support, and it's not just from a fringe group of crazies, it must be from a large group (even a majority) of the people. How can people be so misguided?

His rabid supporters and rabid foes deadlocked and left the decision to a small group of pretty dim voters who never pay attention and are driven by rules of thumb like "Never change horses in the middle of the stream". But in the last two years things have got so bad even those folks have noticed.

That and the GOP stalwarts in the states did everything they could think of to deny the vote to as many inner city people as they could, and they were damned effective at it, especially in Florida and Ohio.
 
  • #95
This articles discusses the current WH strategy, which is to focus on the 2006 elections. The reason is because Bush's approval ratings cannot be changed short of a miracle in Iraq, and if even the House goes to the Dems, there may be enough balance of power to demand accountability and oversight, which of course the Bush cabal does not want to face.

Though this could also be under the "Can Bush Win Back Approval" thread, here is an article today on the general topic:

"Midterm elections crux of GOP strategy
Bush aides look to November vote as way to reverse precipitous slide" - Washington Post, May 21 - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12905785/

It is highly unlikely the situation in Iraq will improve any time soon, and certainly not before November. And I suspect Bush will "stay the course" and not begin an exist strategy--he is still "urging for patience." Even if Osama bin Laden was caught, as long as the Iraq quagmire continues, it would only result in a temporary spike in approval ratings. The reason Americans do not see the economy in a positive light is because of inflation versus income, most notably gas prices. And once again, the increasingly high costs of housing, health care, education, etc. cannot be resolved anytime soon. The additional tax cuts will not heal this wound, and may even cause fiscal conservatives to become more angry.

Social conservatives have achieved their main goal--two more conservative judges in the Supreme Court. Many social and traditional Republicans (especially neocons) will remain supportive of the invasion of Iraq, but are not supportive of Bush's illegal immigration solution, particularly the "guest worker" program -- or his energy plan. Most no longer care for Bush, and believe he will go down in history as a poor president.

At this point, aside from my house rep. JD Hayworth (R), I will vote for Democrats or Libertarians only. In my opinion the Republican party should be renamed the Theocratic party. In the meantime, I wish liberals and moderates would get to the polls, and conservatives would take time to learn the issues and not just vote the party line.
 
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After doing nothing about the border situation during his entire presidency, Bush all of a sudden "steals the headlines" from Iraq and transplants them in the southwest, which is a good example of what we can expect to see prior to the upcoming elections. Yet the announced actions at the border is all fluff and no substance.

It is not just Bush, this administration is so full of sophisticated sleaze like Rove , that I can't believe it.
 
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  • #97
edward said:
After doing nothing about the border situation during his entire presidency, Bush all of a sudden "steals the headlines" from Iraq and transplants them in the southwest, which is a good example of what we can expect to see prior to the upcoming elections. Yet the announced actions at the border is all fluff and no substance.
It's a winning strategy...one I saw coming for over a fortnight. Did you see how the approval ratings jumped after his immigration speech ?

I honestly think it's not hard at all to win back a strong rating. Just wait and watch...I think it's starting to happen already.
 
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There will be more of this before the election. Laura is already playing "good cop" and is "urging" Bush to not used gay marriage as a campaign issue. Yeah, right! She just happens to be the most popular member of the campaign team and she will be used to float the sensitive issues to elicit reactions from the electorate. Maybe next she will talk about how important it is for the government (our taxes) to support "charitable work" being done by religious groups, and about how it would be nice to see ID presented "fairly" in schools. If you are a real cynic, you might wonder what Nixon would have done with the phone call records, emails, and Internet searches of hundreds of millions of people, especially going into what looks like a tough mid-term election for his party. Bush does not want to be impeached and he, Rove, and the dirty-tricks team will do whatever they think they can get away with to keep control ouf the House, at least in the short term. At the end of the Bush administration there will be pardons all around, including for Skilling, Lay and deLay.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
It's a winning strategy...one I saw coming for over a fortnight. Did you see how the approval ratings jumped after his immigration speech ?

I honestly think it's not hard at all to win back a strong rating. Just wait and watch...I think it's starting to happen already.
I'm not sure what approval ratings you are referring to. All the news articles I've seen today make reference to Bush's numbers still sagging in the 30s.

True, some Repubs will be taken in with Bush's tokenism, such as sending a measly 6,000 unarmed Nat'l Guard to provide logistical support at the border. But those with any real understanding of the long-term repercussions of amnesty and/or a guest worker program know better. Here's an article hot off the press about Bush's housekeeper:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12892962/site/newsweek/

Bush's parents also had a housekeeper/nanny from Mexico. The only people Bush knows who "pulled themselves up by their bootstraps," who he admires so much are illegals. He has since done a great deal for such people, including Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who recently told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that "it's unclear" whether his grandparents emigrated legally from Mexico. I guess this is the only exposure to "self-made success" a rich boy with a silver spoon in his mouth has ever seen. If only he had the same supposed compassion for legal American citizens who also work hard to feed their families. This "human interest" approach only appeals to other elites and misguided liberals. The majority of Americans who are in the trenches will not accept double standards or tokenism on this issue.

In general, Americans have formed their opinion of Bush, and these little things won't have a significant impact. What Congress does, now that's another matter.
 
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  • #100
SOS2008 said:
I'm not sure what approval ratings you are referring to. All the news articles I've seen today make reference to Bush's numbers still sagging in the 30s.
I saw it on the news, but after a quick Google search...

CNN (5/5/06) : 34%
CNN (5/17/06) : 36%

CBS (5/8/06) : 31%
CBS (5/17/06) : 35%

However,

FOX (5/3/06) : 38%
FOX (5/17/06) : 35%

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
 
  • #101
I think those numbers will go down again as the economy softens and energy prices increase, as attention returns to Iraq, when the next major hurricane hits the US (at least three major ones of Cat 2 or greater are expected to hit the US in 2006), and whatever bad news might develop. :rolleyes:
 
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Gokul43201 said:
However,

FOX (5/3/06) : 38%
FOX (5/17/06) : 35%

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

The thing to note about these numbers, though, is that many conservatives are not happy with Bush for completely different reasons than liberals would like to think (or most likely want to hear).
 
  • #103
I'd love to see the Bush regime all face criminal charges for their activities. Don't count on it unless the November elections go very well for the Democrats.
 
  • #104
StarkRavingMad said:
The thing to note about these numbers, though, is that many conservatives are not happy with Bush for completely different reasons than liberals would like to think (or most likely want to hear).
Yet, here goes Bush, clearly trying to win back his Conservative support by reiterating his strong approval of the gay-marriage ban. Is that just the kind of thing liberals don't expect?

He even had the gall to ask people to be "tolerant of gays and lesbians". Tolerant? C'mon Dick, I'd like you to be tolerant of your daughter. It'll earn you brownie points. Gays and lesbians are things to be tolerated? Please tell me there's a way to interpret that remark that doesn't make you want to throw up.

It's them that are forced to tolerate this mindnumbingly prehistoric bigotry.
 
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