Implicit Derivative of y=31*arctan(x)

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The problem involves finding the derivative of the function y=31*arctan(sqrt(x)). Participants are discussing the application of differentiation rules, particularly the chain rule and product rule, in the context of this function.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the use of the product rule versus the constant multiple rule in differentiation. There are discussions about the correct application of the chain rule and the simplification of the derivative, particularly regarding the expression involving x squared.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the differentiation process and pointed out potential mistakes in the original poster's calculations. There is an exploration of implicit differentiation as an alternative approach, suggesting a broader interpretation of the problem.

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There is a mention of the title possibly indicating an expectation for implicit differentiation, which may influence the approach to the problem. Participants are also questioning the simplification of terms in the derivative expression.

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Homework Statement


Find the derivative of the following function. Simplify where possible.
y=31*arctan(sqrt(x))


Homework Equations


I know that the derivative of arctan(x) = 1 / (1+x2)
I also know we will be using chain rule and product rule.

The Attempt at a Solution



y' = (31)'[arctan(sqrt(x))] + (31)[arctan(sqrt(x))]'
y' = (0)[arctan(sqrt(x))] + (31)*[1/(1+x2)] * (2sqrt(x))

y' = 31 / (2sqrt(x))(1+x2)


However the correct answer is
y' = 31 / (2sqrt(x))(1+x) <-- no x2

I'm not sure why the x2 ends up being just x. I checked if it was simplifying problem but that wasn't it (at least not from what I see).


Thanks for the help in advance.
 
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winslow said:

Homework Statement


Find the derivative of the following function. Simplify where possible.
y=31*arctan(sqrt(x))


Homework Equations


I know that the derivative of arctan(x) = 1 / (1+x2)
I also know we will be using chain rule and product rule.

The Attempt at a Solution



y' = (31)'[arctan(sqrt(x))] + (31)[arctan(sqrt(x))]'
You should never use the product rule when one factor of the product is a constant. In such cases, you should always use the constant multiple rule; i.e., if y = k*f(x), y' = k*f'(x). It's not that using the product rule will give you the wrong answer; it's just that it adds too much complication, increasing the chances of making a mistake.
winslow said:
y' = (0)[arctan(sqrt(x))] + (31)*[1/(1+x2)] * (2sqrt(x))
In the line above you have two mistakes. d/dx(arctan(f(x)) = 1/[1 + (f(x))^2] * f'(x). In your problem, f(x) = sqrt(x), so (f(x))^2 = x. Also, d/dx(sqrt(x)) != 2sqrt(x).
winslow said:
y' = 31 / (2sqrt(x))(1+x2)


However the correct answer is
y' = 31 / (2sqrt(x))(1+x) <-- no x2

I'm not sure why the x2 ends up being just x. I checked if it was simplifying problem but that wasn't it (at least not from what I see).


Thanks for the help in advance.
 
when you use the chain rule, you're supposed to think of it in the sense [tex]\frac{dg(u)}{dx}=g'(u)*du/dx[/tex]
so for you're case

[tex]\frac{dg(u)}{dx}=\frac{d}{dx}(a*\arctan (u))=a*\frac{1}{1+u^{2}}*\frac{du}{dx}[/tex]

just plug in u=sqrt(x)
 
In addition, the title of your thread is Implicit Derivative of ..., so you are probably not expected to know the derivative of arctan(x).

Assuming your title actually means something, you are probably expected to do something like this:

y = 31 arctan(sqrt(x)) ==> y/31 = arctan(sqrt(x)) ==> sqrt(x) = tan(y/31) ==> x = [tan(y/31)]^2. Now take the derivative (with respect to y) implicitly.
 
Oh I see where I went wrong with the arctan(u) and u = sqrt(x)

Thank you Mark44 and tt2348 for helping me! I appreciate it!
 

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