Implicit Differentiation of Multivariable Functions

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The discussion revolves around proving the relationship between the partial derivatives of multivariable functions defined implicitly by the equation F(x,y,z) = 0. Participants suggest using specific examples, such as x + 2y + 3z = 0, to illustrate the concept and derive the product of the partial derivatives equaling -1. The chain rule is emphasized as a crucial tool for finding relationships between the derivatives while holding certain variables constant. There is acknowledgment of the complexity of the topic, especially for those new to partial derivatives, and encouragement is provided to continue exploring the problem. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of understanding implicit differentiation and the application of the chain rule in multivariable calculus.
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Homework Statement


Suppose that the equation F(x,y,z) = 0 implicitly defines each of the three variables x, y and z as functions of the other two: z = f(x,y), y = g(x,z), z = h(y,z). If F is differentiable and Fx, Fy and Fz are all nonzero, show that

\frac{∂z}{∂x} \frac{∂x}{∂y} \frac{∂y}{∂z} = -1

The Attempt at a Solution



I have been scribbling away at this for a little while now and can't see it.
I assume that I need to prove that each partial derivative = -1, thus -1*-1*-1=-1

Don't want you guys to simply give me the answer but any tips on where to start would be greatly appreciated =D
 
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Try a simple example. Say, x+2y+3z=0. You can then solve for f, g and h explicitly and show your product is (-1). And you'll also see that not all of the partials need to be (-1). That should be a good hint to start.
 
Thanks for the reply.
That worked...but how can I solve for all cases?
 
I tried ax+by+cz=0 and solved it and ended up with -1...but this still doesn't solve it for all cases does it?
 
KingBigness said:
I tried ax+by+cz=0 and solved it and ended up with -1...but this still doesn't solve it for all cases does it?

It sort of does. Since F is differentiable and invertible it can be approximated by a linear function well enough. If you want to be more formal then use the chain rule (read all of the following d's as partial derivatives). E.g. let's try finding dx/dy in terms of F. When you are taking a partial derivative you need to specify what variable is being held constant. In this case it must be z. Now the chain rule for partial derivatives tells you (dF/dx)*(dx/dy)+(dF/dy)*(dy/dy)+(dF/dz)*(dz/dy)=0, right? If you hold z constant, can you solve that for dx/dy in terms of partial derivatives of F? Repeat that for dz/dx and dy/dz and multiply the results together.
 
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Thank you so much for that.
I had tried using the chain rule, but I mixed it up =( I only started teaching myself partial derivatives 2 days ago so I'll give my self a break for stuffing up =P

Thank you again, I'll give that a shot and see how it goes
 
KingBigness said:
Thank you so much for that.
I had tried using the chain rule, but I mixed it up =( I only started teaching myself partial derivatives 2 days ago so I'll give my self a break for stuffing up =P

Thank you again, I'll give that a shot and see how it goes

That's ok. This one is a little subtle. I had to ponder it a while.
 
haha I'm glad you had trouble with it to, makes me feel less dumb =P
 

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