Importance of Current density?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of electrical current density versus total electrical current, exploring the advantages and contexts in which current density is preferred. Participants examine its theoretical implications, applications in engineering, and mathematical properties.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the necessity of using current density instead of total current, seeking to understand its advantages.
  • One participant notes that current density is not always used in electrical engineering, suggesting that its relevance may vary by context.
  • Another participant highlights that current density is a local property, while total current is a global property, indicating that both have their uses depending on the problem at hand.
  • It is mentioned that current density allows for the analysis of complicated distributions of current, which can be beneficial in solving problems related to magnetic fields in materials.
  • There is a discussion about the mathematical convenience of using densities in differential equations, particularly in the context of Maxwell's equations.
  • Participants clarify that both current and current density are vectors, although current is often treated as a scalar in practical applications.
  • One participant suggests that understanding spatially varying current density is crucial for analyzing phenomena like eddy currents.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance and application of current density versus total current, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific contexts in electrical engineering and the varying relevance of current density in different applications. The discussion also reflects unresolved mathematical interpretations regarding the treatment of current as a scalar versus a vector.

Rajeswar Panja
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Why we do use electrical current density in place of total electrical current? Actually I want to know what is the advantage of using electrical current density?
 
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Yes, I read on wiki article but my question is that why we do use current density which means current/unit area rather than the total current?
 
Rajeswar Panja said:
why we do use current density
We don't always use Current Density. In fact, in many years of EE, Current Density hasn't figured very highly in any of my work. Talk to a power Engineer and you may get a different answer.
What is the context of your question?
 
Rajeswar Panja said:
why we do use current density which means current/unit area rather than the total current?
We use whichever one we need for a given problem
 
Current density is a vector, current is a scalar?
 
Current density is a local property (For a point), whereas current is a global property (e.g. for an entire wire). Both are useful depending on the problem but I guess I'll talk a bit more about current density. Densities in general are useful because they allow you to look at the effect of complicated distributions of the quantity in question (e.g. current,charge,mass) by adding up all the little current densities (Numerically or otherwise), current density allows you to find for instance the magnetic field inside a complicated material where only parts of the current have an effect. Another motivation for using densities is that the differential forms of equations, (e.g. Maxwell equations) are more mathematically convenient to work with, and they have to be expressed in terms of local properties.

Both current and current density are vectors i.e. they both have direction but currents are rarely written in vector form probably because they're written too often and it's assumed obvious
 
cosmik debris said:
Current density is a vector, current is a scalar?
Mgcini Keith Phuthi said:
Both current and current density are vectors
Current is in fact a scalar. The current through a surface S (e.g. a cross-section of a wire) is defined as $$I = \iint_S \vec J \cdot d\vec S$$ where ##\vec J## is the current density at each point on the surface and ##d \vec S## is the infinitesimal surface element at that point.
 
Perhaps an example would help: You can't make any progress on eddy currents without solving for the spatially varying current density.
 

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