Impossible Bearing and Triangle word problem.

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The discussion revolves around two geometry problems involving bearings and angles of depression. The first problem involves determining the distance from point B to a transmitter based on bearings from two points, A and B, which are 8.68 miles apart. The second problem concerns a car observed from a building, where the angles of depression to the car are given at two different points as it approaches the building.

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  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric functions and the Law of Sines for solving the first problem, while others suggest using right triangles and angles of elevation for the second problem. Some participants express confusion about how to proceed after identifying the right triangles.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach both problems. Some participants have offered guidance on setting up triangles and using trigonometric relationships, while others are still questioning their understanding of the concepts involved.

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Participants note that they have not all learned the Law of Sines, and there is some uncertainty regarding the application of angles of depression and elevation in the context of the problems. Additionally, there are mentions of dropping perpendiculars to simplify the problems, indicating varying levels of comfort with the material.

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Homework Statement


Radio direction finders are set up at points A and B, 8.68 mi apart on an east-west line. From A it is found that the bearing of a signal from a transmitter is N54.3*E, while from B it is N35.7*W. Find the distance from B, to the nearest hundredth of a mile.


A person is watching a car from the top of a building. The car is traveling on straight road directly toward the building. When first noticed the angle of depression to the car is 28*30’. When the car stops, the angle of depression is 47*8’. The building is 250 feet tall. How far did the car travel from when it was first noticed until it stopped? Round your answer to the hundredths place.


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All the trigonometric functions

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I did these problems on a test and failed at them miserably. I'm trying them again and still can't figure them out. I've set them up and uploaded them:
[PLAIN]http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7793/setupf.png

Any help is appreciated!
 
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Can you show us what work you have? For the first one, have you learned the Law of Sines yet? For the 2nd one, you should know the angles of elevation of the car to the person on top of the building, right? How many right triangles do you see? Which trig function can you set up?
 
I have not learned law of sines and I know the angles of depression = angles of elevation because of alternate interior angles.

For the bearing problem, I am totally stumped and that's how far I can get.
For the second I really have no idea how to approach it.
 
ok ... for the second...
see if you have a triangle and a side and angle is given to you can't you find the other by trigonometry? ... ok you can... so from one angle you get the longer dist from tower and from second you get shorter distance... then subtract to get your answer.
 
for the first drop down a perpendicular 'p' and say the horizontal distance from foot of perpendicular to A is x and other is 8.68-x... apply trig and equate..
 
The legend said:
for the first drop down a perpendicular 'p' and say the horizontal distance from foot of perpendicular to A is x and other is 8.68-x... apply trig and equate..
No need to drop a perpendicular, if you notice that 54.3 degrees and 35.7 degrees make 90 degrees; you already have a right triangle!
 
zgozvrm said:
No need to drop a perpendicular, if you notice that 54.3 degrees and 35.7 degrees make 90 degrees; you already have a right triangle!

Yea I knew that, that's obvious. But what do I do after? I can't use a 90* angle to solve trig functions can I?
 
amd123 said:
Yea I knew that, that's obvious. But what do I do after? I can't use a 90* angle to solve trig functions can I?

Draw a line across the top of the middle triangle in the first problem. This gives you 90* angles in the two triangles that you have now formed on the sides. Fill in the missing angles on each of these triangles. Since there is a straight line across the top, you know that the angles add up to 180*. The top angle of the middle triangle is 90*. Use sin or whatever to solve for the missing side.
 
dropping perpendicular gave me an easy answer though...
 
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The legend said:
dropping perpendicular gave me an easy answer though...

Your method is fine. It works and it's relatively easy. My point is that the problem is already staring you in the face...

(See the attachment)
Call the angle from the transmitter to points A & B, point C.
We know that C lies N54.3^\circ[/tex]E of point A, therefore \angle[/tex]A must be 90^\circ[/tex] - 54.3^\circ[/tex] = 35.7^\circ[/tex]<br /> Likewise, C lies N35.7^\circ[/tex]W of point B and so \angle[/tex]B must be 54.3^\circ[/tex]<br /> Since \angle[/tex]A + \angle[/tex]B = 90^\circ[/tex] then \angle[/tex]C must be 90^\circ[/tex]<br /> <br /> We have a right triangle.<br /> So the distance BC must be 8.68mi \times[/tex] sin(35.7^\circ[/tex])
 

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oh ... foolish me! :-p
i calculated the perpendicular distance from the line joining AB... i should have read the question properly...:frown:
 

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