What are the Impulse and Forces Involved in a Fire Hose Collision?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the momentum and forces associated with a fire hose delivering water to a burning building. The scenario includes the rate of water flow, the speed of the water, and the angle at which the water is deflected upon striking the building.

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  • Participants explore the rate of change of momentum and the forces exerted by the water and the building. Questions arise regarding the angle of deflection, the calculation of impulse, and the interpretation of impulse in relation to the roof's surface.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with various interpretations and calculations being discussed. Some participants provide insights into the impulse and momentum concepts, while others seek clarification on specific points, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants note the lack of explicit information regarding the angle of deflection and the assumptions made based on the provided diagram. There is also mention of the need for visual aids to better understand the relationships between the forces and the surfaces involved.

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Homework Statement


A fire hose sends 20 kg of water per minute against a burning building. The water strikes the building at 40.0 m/s and is deflected 60deg as shown in the figure. (a) What is the rate of change of momentum of the water? (b) What force does the building exert on the water? (c) What force does the water exert on the building? (d) what are the magnitude and direction of the force exerted by the water on the roof?



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momentum = mv
impulse = F * t = mv1-mv0



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honestly, i dun know how to approach the question at all, hope someone could help me. its under the topic momentum and collisions.
 

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The water jet gets deflected by 60 degrees with the vertical or horizontal?
 
i am not sure about that...as that is all the information given. but I'm assuming its with the horizontal as that's the way it is shown on in the diagram.
 
Mass of water falling on the building per unit time = 20/60 kg/s = 1/3 kg/s
Impulse of force along the plane of the roof will be 0.
Impulse perpendicular to the plane of the roof will be 2mvcos60
Rate of change of momentum = 2mvcos60/t
from the first equation, m/t = 1/3 kg/s

This will be the force exerted by the water jet on the building and vice-versa.
The direction of force is perpendicular to the roof.
 
hi, thanks for your response.
i have a few further questions.
a)for impulse of water, isn't it 1/3(kg/s) * 40(m/s) ? since it is rate of change in momentum, isn't it momentum/time?

b)why is the impulse on the roof 0? how does it relate to the impulse equation?

c) your impulse equation = 2mvcos60, why did u multiply by 2?

d) is force exerted on a plane, even at an angle, always perpendicular to the plane?

thanks for answering!
 
a) Impulse equals the change in momentum, not rate of change of momentum
b) and c) Impulse of roof on water can be resolved into two perpendicular components- One along the roof and the other perpendicular to it.

You need to draw a figure to understand it.
Impulse along the roof = mvsin60 - mvsin60 = 0
Impulse perpendicular to the roof = mvcos60 - (-mvcos60) [- sign because the direction changes]

d) Impulse of the plane on the colliding body will be always perpendicular to it provided the collision is perfectly elastic.

Force exerted on a plane by the body will be along its direction of velocity.
 

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