In how many ways can Ben paint his apartment?

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The discussion revolves around a combinatorial problem regarding how many ways Ben can paint the walls of his apartment, which has a total of 14 walls. The problem involves determining the number of combinations for painting 10 walls with one color and the remaining 4 walls with another color. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and combinatorial calculations.

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  • One participant presents a calculation using combinations to determine the number of ways to paint 10 walls one color and 4 walls another color, arriving at a result of 6,006 for both combinations.
  • Another participant confirms the initial approach and notes that choosing 10 from 14 or 4 from 14 will yield the same result due to the combinatorial identity ${n \choose r}={n \choose n-r}$.
  • A later reply questions whether the final answer requires multiplying the two combinations, 14C10 and 14C4.
  • Another participant asserts that the final answer is 1,001 ways, emphasizing that the two combinations are equivalent and yield the same count.

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Participants generally agree on the combinatorial approach and the equivalence of the two combinations, but there is some uncertainty regarding the final calculation and whether multiplication of the combinations is necessary.

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There is a noted error in the initial calculations regarding the final division, which affects the conclusion drawn by one participant. The discussion does not resolve this error definitively.

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The rooms of Ben’s apartment has 14 walls. He has enough paint to cover 10 of these walls with one color and the rest with another color. In how many ways could Ben paint his apartment ?

This problem I used combinations for 10 walls for one color and 4 walls for one color; Here my calculations:

14 walls in total, 10 walls in one colour and the rest (4 walls) in another colour.

For 10 walls: nCr = 14C10 = n!/(n-r)!r! = (14)!/(14-10)!(10)! = (14)!/(4)!(10)!

=(14x13x12x11x10!)/(4x3x2x1)(10)! = (24,024)/(24) = 6,006

For 4 walls: nCr = 14C4 = n!/(n-r)!r! = (14)!/(14-4)!(4)! = (14)!/(10)!(4)!

=(14x13x12x11x10!)/(4x3x2x1)(10)! = (24,024)/(24) = 6,006

i wonder if I am in the right direction ? Pls and Thank you
 
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I think you are definitely on the right track. We could either look at the number of ways to choose 10 from 14 or the number of ways to choose 4 from 14, as after all these will necessarily return the same number since:

$${n \choose r}={n \choose n-r}$$

$$\frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}=\frac{n!}{(n-r)!(n-(n-r))!}$$

$$\frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}=\frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}\quad\checkmark$$

$${14 \choose 4}=\frac{14!}{4!(14-4)!}=\frac{14!}{4!10!}=\frac{14\cdot13\cdot12\cdot11}{4!}=7\cdot13\cdot11=1001$$

Your work was correct up until the final division where you made a slight error.
 
Thank you, guess did most of the work and didnt finish it . So do I have to multiply 14C10 x 14C4 to get the final answer ?
 
No, the final answer is that there are 1,001 ways for Ben to paint his apartment. He can either choose the 10 walls for one color, or the 4 walls for the other. In either case he will find there are 1001 ways to do so, and that they are equivalent.
 
Thank you very much
 

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