Inclined plane problem help please

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a frictionless inclined plane with a time-dependent angle of inclination defined by the relationship between angular velocity and time. Participants explore the dynamics of an object sliding down the plane, particularly focusing on the derived expression for velocity and the implications of its sign.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between angular velocity, time, and the angle of inclination. Questions are raised regarding the negative sign of the velocity and its behavior at t=0, alongside considerations of potential energy and forces acting on the object.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the assumptions made in the problem setup and the interpretation of the derived equations. Some guidance is offered regarding the potential energy aspect, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the velocity's sign or the overall approach.

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There are indications of missing information regarding the complete problem statement, and participants are navigating the implications of a rotating frame of reference, including potential centrifugal forces.

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If the angle of a frictionless inclined plane 'a' is such that a=wt

where w is angular velocity and a is a function of t
and an object is sliding down that plane then...
if m is the mass of the object

m(dv/dt)=mgsin(wt)

solving for v i got

v=(-gcos(wt)/w)

Why is the velocity negative and Why is that when i substitute t=0 v is greater than 0?
 
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Hello Vatsa
What is the question asking for?
Can you please post the complete question , ?
 
Well...i just like solving problems i come up with...

So suppose you have a rotating inclined plane and the angle of inclination is a function of time such that...angle 'x'=angular velocity(w)*time(t)

now mgsin(x) is the horizotal component of g so the body on the frictionless inclined plane experiences a horizontal force=mgsin(x)..let the velocity along the incline plane be v
where m is the mass of the body
so...

m(dv/dt)=mgsin(x)

solving for v i got the above result...

my question is that even at t=0 why is there velocity..because at t=0 angle=0 and why is the velocity negative?
 
As the slope and mass are rotating about the bottom of the slope isn't there also a Centrifugal force acting up the slope?
 
and when you frame the equation , integrate it voila!
 
I'm not really sure, but I think you are not using the exact formula, the equation: mgsin(x), is not giving you the velocity, instead, is giving you the potencial energy of the body, that is why with t=0 gives you a value, because, while stopped, the body has potential energy instead of cinectic energy. If you want to find the velocity, you have to do the variation of the mechanichal energy so it will be: Em= Emf-Emi⇔Em= (Ecf+Epf)-(Eci+Epi)⇔Em=Ecf-Emi (because Epf=0 and Eci=0). The value is negative, because g=-9,8m/s.
 

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