Incompatibility between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity

In summary, the incompatibility between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity is a well-established issue in physics. This may be related to the phenomenon of emergence, where at the macro level, Relativity holds sway but at the micro level, Quantum Mechanics takes over. However, this does not mean that Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity are not compatible, as demonstrated by the development of relativistic quantum mechanics and quantum field theory. The problem arises when trying to incorporate gravity, represented by General Relativity, within the quantum field theory framework. Clarifying this misunderstanding is important in understanding the compatibility between these two theories.
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The incompatibility between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity is one of the stumbling blocks in physics

Is it possible that this problem is related to the phenomenon of emergence? For example, a traffic engineer can treat the movement of a large number of vehicles as the flow of a liquid. But at the level of an individual car this does not work.

Another example is the behaviour of a flock of starlings, at the individual level it is just a bird but in large numbers they form complex mathematical patterns in the sky

So similarly, relativity may work when we are looking at very large numbers but break down at the micro level - just like the vehicle and bird analogy

Nobody would say "how can this thing behave like a car at the micro level but like a liquid at the macro level?" so maybe at the micro level Quantum Mechanics holds sway but at the macro level Relativity holds sway?
 
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(Special) Relativity is not incompatible with quantum mechanics. The development of relativistic quantum mechanics and quantum field theory was a cornerstone in the development of the standard model of particle physics, one of the most successful physical theories to date. You should not be surprised to get a non-relativistic QM theory when you take certain limits in relativistic QM, just as you should not be surprised that Newtonian mechanics is only valid as an approximation of SR for low velocities.
 
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Question is not precisely clear.As I so far understand QM effects come into play at subatomic level irrespective of velocities and relativistic effects come into play at near light speeds irrespective of sizes.
Do you want to compare single electron through two slits and flow of electrons in Young's double slit experiment and compare the patterns on screen.
How you are linking relativity?
Or you are thinking of Boltzmann work of Gas Laws etc.
Please simplify your question.
I am not an expert but am serious to understand.
 
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wavering said:
The incompatibility between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity is one of the stumbling blocks in physics

Is it possible that this problem is related to the phenomenon of emergence? For example, a traffic engineer can treat the movement of a large number of vehicles as the flow of a liquid. But at the level of an individual car this does not work.

Another example is the behaviour of a flock of starlings, at the individual level it is just a bird but in large numbers they form complex mathematical patterns in the sky

So similarly, relativity may work when we are looking at very large numbers but break down at the micro level - just like the vehicle and bird analogy

Nobody would say "how can this thing behave like a car at the micro level but like a liquid at the macro level?" so maybe at the micro level Quantum Mechanics holds sway but at the macro level Relativity holds sway?

The link below is a lecture from a typical, college course in Relativistic Quantum Mechanics:

http://www.physics.gla.ac.uk/~dmiller/lectures/RQM_2008.pdf

I have no clue on where you get the idea that QM and Special Relativity are not compatible, when it is already well established and even taught in school as a standard course!

What I suspect is that you are confusing the problem with incorporating gravity, and thus, General Relativity, within the quantum field theory picture, with the misunderstanding that the entire theory of Relativity is incompatible with QM. You need to straighten out your misunderstanding.

Zz.
 

1. What is the main difference between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity?

The main difference between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity is the scale at which they operate. Quantum Mechanics deals with the behavior of particles on a microscopic scale, while Relativity deals with the behavior of objects on a macroscopic scale.

2. How do Quantum Mechanics and Relativity contradict each other?

Quantum Mechanics and Relativity contradict each other because they have different understandings of the fundamental nature of reality. Quantum Mechanics operates on probabilities and uncertainties, while Relativity operates on determinism and a fixed, measurable reality.

3. Can the two theories be reconciled?

There have been attempts to reconcile Quantum Mechanics and Relativity, but so far, there is no comprehensive theory that can explain both on all scales. Some theories, like String Theory, aim to unify the two, but they have not been fully proven yet.

4. How does the incompatibility between the two theories affect scientific research?

The incompatibility between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity has led to challenges in understanding and predicting certain phenomena, such as the behavior of black holes. It also means that there are still many unanswered questions in physics and that further research is needed to bridge the gap between the two theories.

5. Are there any experiments that have tested the incompatibility between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity?

Yes, there have been experiments that have tested the incompatibility between Quantum Mechanics and Relativity. For example, the double-slit experiment demonstrates the probabilistic nature of particles in Quantum Mechanics, while the observation of gravitational lensing supports the predictions of Relativity. However, there is still no definitive experiment that can reconcile the two theories.

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