Independent solutions of scalar wave equations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of solutions to the scalar wave equation, particularly in the context of finding independent solutions from an infinite series derived through separation of variables in spherical coordinates. The scope includes theoretical aspects of differential equations and their applications in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the scalar wave equation is a second-order differential equation and expects two independent solutions, but questions how to extract these from an infinite series of terms involving Legendre polynomials, Bessel functions, and trigonometric functions.
  • Another participant suggests using d'Alembert's solution in Cartesian coordinates for potentially clearer results, implying a preference for a different approach.
  • A third participant clarifies that they are indeed considering the 3D scalar wave equation in spherical coordinates, indicating a focus on a well-established problem in electromagnetic theory.
  • One participant points out that while second-order linear ordinary differential equations have two linearly independent solutions, the wave equation, being a second-order partial differential equation, has infinitely many independent solutions, framing it as an infinite number of coupled ordinary differential equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of solutions to the scalar wave equation, with some emphasizing the expectation of two independent solutions while others highlight the existence of infinitely many solutions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extraction of independent solutions from the infinite series.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the coordinate systems and the nature of the solutions, as well as the dependence on the definitions of independent solutions in the context of partial differential equations.

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Hi,

This has been bothering me for a while now.. The scalar wave equation is a 2nd order differential equation. So we would expect two independent solutions for it.

However when you try to find the solution of the scalar wave equation (in spherical coordinates) by employing the separation of variables we would end up getting a series summation to infinite terms of (legendre polynomials)*(bessels)*(Trigonometric ) functions.

How do you find the *two* independent solutions from this infinite summation series ?

Thanks
 
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I guess you are trying this in three dimensions from the coordinate system, I can't figure out why you are not trying it in cartesian coordinates though.

Split it up and use d'Alembert's solution in all three dimensions to get a nicer answer?
 
I am looking at the 3D scalar wave equation in spherical coordinates which is a well discussed problem in electromagnetic theory. But thanks.
 
Second-order linear ordinary differential equations (ODEs) have two linearly independent solutions. The wave equation is a second order partial differential equation (PDE) and will have infinitely many independent solutions (e.g. u(x,y,z,t) = cos(k(x-ct)) is a solution for any real k). If you like you can think of the wave equation as an infinite number of coupled ODEs, one for each point in space.
 

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