Indian engineer claims the nobel process is flawed

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The discussion centers around the claim made by an Indian engineer regarding the flaws in the Nobel Prize nomination process after he did not receive the award. Participants explore the validity of his claims, the history of the Nobel Prize, and the implications of biases in award decisions.

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  • Some participants question the engineer's motives, suggesting he may be a "sore loser" for claiming the process is flawed.
  • Others express skepticism about the integrity of the Nobel Prize process, citing historical controversies and biases inherent in voting systems.
  • A participant notes that the confidentiality of nominations makes it difficult for anyone to know if they were actually nominated.
  • Concerns are raised about the criteria for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize, with references to controversial laureates like Obama and Kissinger.
  • One participant argues that the Nobel Prize's status is maintained despite claims of flaws, implying that many past winners have been deserving.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that the Nobel Prize is part of a conspiracy, reflecting a more satirical view of the awards.

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Participants express a range of opinions on the validity of the Nobel Prize process, with no clear consensus reached. Some agree that there are flaws, while others defend the integrity of the awards.

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Participants highlight the historical context of the Nobel Prize and the potential biases in the selection process, but do not resolve the underlying issues or assumptions regarding the nomination confidentiality and the criteria for awarding prizes.

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Not sure if it belongs here, if not then please move it.

So basically an indian engineer is nominated for a nobel prize, and doesn't get it. He http://news.indiainfo.com/2003/07/07/07nri.html claiming the process is flawed. Any merit to this, or is he just being a sore loser? Thoughts?
 
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why did he keep quiet for 10 years?
 
I think the Nobel Prize process is flawed, but not neccesarily for the same reasons. Of course, it is not our call to make is it.
 
Get a better link please
 
Obama got a nobel prize, remember that? Enough said.
 
Any time a decision is based on people voting you are going to have an element of bias.
 
cronxeh said:
Obama got a nobel prize, remember that? Enough said.
So did kissenger!

Remember the nobel PEACE prize has no connection to the Nobel prizes other than the same family fronting the money.
 
It's pro-wrestling for intelectuals.
 
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To me, Al Gore's Nobel PEACE Prize looks the most weird.

What does global warming have to do with world peace?
 
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mgb_phys said:
So did kissenger!

Remember the nobel PEACE prize has no connection to the Nobel prizes other than the same family fronting the money.

I agree Kissinger shouldn't have gotten it. He played both the Rockefeller and Nixon fields and really gambled with people's lives, but at least he had the actual audacity to be nominated to highest posts of power. He may have been responsible for the space race USA and USSR had. In any event the Nobel peace prize is a joke - it seems they did not give it to Ghandi and now they only give it to those who obtain power by wit instead of force.
 
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jobyts said:
To me, Al Gore's Nobel PEACE Prize looks the most weird.
It's all part of neo-con teabagger conspiracy.
By automatically giving the nobel prize to failed democrats it demonstrates that the Nobel prize and therefore the UN (same letter) are part of a plot by the stone cutters to destroy democracy and install a world government of crab-people.

ps. I might have got the details wrong - I was channel surfing.

pps. At least the Americans are going to start drinking tea again, hopefully that will calm them all down a bit. I think a lot of the problems of the last half century can be blamed on excessive coffee consumption.
 
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aquitaine said:
So basically an indian engineer is nominated for a nobel prize, and doesn't get it. He http://news.indiainfo.com/2003/07/07/07nri.html claiming the process is flawed. Any merit to this, or is he just being a sore loser? Thoughts?

Well first: He doesn't know whether he was nominated. At most, somebody qualified to nominate may have told him they nominated him (breaching confidentiality), but there's few ways he can actually know that. The records are sealed for 50 years and the confidentiality rules are quite clearly specified on a paper accompanying the nomination forms sent out every year.
(I'll just mention that unnecessary detail to show that I might have a bit of insight here..)

In any case, the proof is in the pudding: If the Nobel committees got it wrong a lot, the Nobel prizes simply wouldn't have the status they do. It isn't that big a cash prize (and during some periods, it was a quite meager sum). But with that status, it's inevitable you'll have a bunch of sore losers, as well as people trying to influence the process (which has kept its integrity quite well if you ask me).

Finally, even if you do consider the process to be flawed, there's absolutely nothing that can be done about it. Nobel's will was quite specific in its instructions, and as executors of it, they're legally bound to follow it to the letter.
 
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