Induced current in a moving bar on rails

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When bar 1 is moved to the left with velocity v, an induced current will flow in bar 2 due to the changing magnetic field. This current creates a magnetic force that affects both bars, potentially moving bar 1 further left. The interaction between the two bars, which carry currents, may lead to a repelling force that could influence their motion. The problem's complexity arises from whether bar 1 is continuously pushed or simply set in motion, affecting the dynamics of the induced current and forces. Overall, the scenario presents a nuanced interplay of electromagnetic principles that requires careful consideration of the initial conditions and forces involved.
khaled hayek

Homework Statement


2 movable conducting bars on a conducting rail with a uniform magnetic field heading inside the paper , what will happen to bar 2 if we move bar 1 to the left with a velocity v ?

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3. The Attempt at a Solution

i think that a current will be induced in bar 2 and pass to bar 1 via the rail , as a result , the magnetic field will affect bar 1 with a magnetic force and move it to the left (force on a current carrying wire) , but will there be a repel force between the two bars because a current passes through both of them (force between two parallel current-carrying wires) , and will that force stop bar 1 from moving left ?
 
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khaled hayek said:
, " ... and will that force stop bar 1 from moving left ?"
You have just stated that the #1 bar is being moved to the left with velocity v so how can it then be stopped from moving?
 
rude man said:
You have just stated that the #1 bar is being moved to the left with velocity v so how can it then be stopped from moving?
It depends how you read the problem statement. Did we merely set the bar moving left at some speed v, or are we continuing to force it left at that speed?
The thread linked in post#2 relates to the former. I agree that as worded here it sounds more like the latter.
 
This seems lika good problem if properly defined. One could assume that at t=0 the left bar is d away from the right bar, moving with velocity v0, the right bar is initially stationary w/r/t the external B flux lines. Interesting - bars 1 and 2 push each other apart by μ0i2/2πd while the current with the B field imparts a force on each bar il x B. Meanwhile the current i = B⋅(l x v')/R, R = loop resistance which varies with t also, while v' has to take both bars' velocities into account. Quite a smörgåsbord, the quantitative solution of which was possibly not contemplated in the problem statement.
 
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