Inelastic Buckling/Buckling in short columns

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on calculating the buckling force for short columns, specifically addressing the applicability of Johnson's equation. Participants confirm that for short columns, traditional global elastic buckling theory is not suitable, as these columns do not experience elastic buckling before yielding. Instead, Johnson's formula, which accounts for inelastic buckling and utilizes the compressive yield strength (Scy) and modulus of elasticity, is applicable. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding material properties, loading conditions, and support types when assessing buckling behavior in short columns.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Johnson's equation for inelastic buckling
  • Knowledge of material properties, including compressive yield strength (Scy)
  • Familiarity with slenderness ratio and effective buckling length
  • Awareness of different column support conditions (fixed, pinned, etc.)
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  • Research the application of Johnson's equation in structural engineering
  • Study the effects of slenderness ratio on buckling behavior
  • Learn about the differences between elastic and inelastic buckling
  • Explore design codes relevant to beam-column analysis
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Structural engineers, civil engineers, and anyone involved in the design and analysis of short columns in construction and structural applications.

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Hey I was wondering how you're supposed to calculate the buckling force for a short column. Is there even a way? If there is, is it accurate and how do you use it? And finally how do you know when to use it?
 
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If the column is "short" (below slenderness ratio limit) there is no global elastic buckling before the material yields, so global elastic buckling theory will not be useful for predicting material failure.

To verify whether a column is "short" or not, you must know the material, how it is being loaded, how it's being supported (fixed, fixed-fixed, pinned-fixed, pinned-guided...), the effective buckling length, the least section's radius of gyration and the limiting slenderness ratio for your beam-column in the design code you are working with.
 
That's interesting so I guess I shouldn't be looking at buckling for these short scenarios. I have calculated all the things you mentioned and have verified it is short. I was simply looking at buckling originally because I came across something called Johnson's equation which supposedly can solve buckling for short beams. But it requires a tangent modulus and this threw me off.
 
Most engineering designs are within the elastic limit and Euler's critical buckling load is included here. Johnson's approach applies to inelastic buckling, where the material already yielded with little strain or shows no significant elastic behaviour, hence the need for the tangent modulus.
 
roanoar said:
So I guess I shouldn't be looking at buckling for these short column scenarios.
You should be looking at buckling. You were right to look at that.

The Johnson formula applies to short columns. Notice the peak stress in the Johnson formula is the compressive yield strength, Scy. Hence, the Johnson formula prevents inelastic behavior. Furthermore, you divide the Johnson formula by a factor of safety, making the peak stress below the yield strength. Also, the Johnson formula uses modulus of elasticity, not tangent modulus.
 
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nvn is right, you can apply Johnson's approach to short columns, but it is not limited to this condition.
 

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