Inelastic collision of plane onto a barge? (challenging)

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The discussion centers on calculating the minimum length of a 2000 kg barge required for a 1000 kg plane to safely land and stop on its deck, given the plane's initial velocity of 50 m/s and a constant braking force equal to one-quarter of its weight. The key insight is that the initial velocity of the plane relative to the barge cannot be assumed to be 50 m/s due to the acceleration of both the plane and the barge. Instead, the problem must be approached using the conservation of linear momentum and the inertial reference frame of the water, rather than the accelerating frame of the barge.

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Homework Statement


A 1000 kg plane is trying to land on the deck of a 2000 kg barge at rest on the surface of the sea. The only frictional force to consider is between the plane’s wheels and the deck, and this braking force is constant and equal to one-quarter of the plane’s weight. What must the minimum length of the barge be, in order that the plane can stop safely on deck, if the plane touches down just at the rear end of the deck with a velocity of 50 m/s towards the front of the barge?

Note: I don't understand why the initial velocity of the plane relative to the barge cannot be 50 m/s forward, since this value is the initial velocity of the plane relative to the water, and the initial velocity of the barge relative to the water is 0. Shouldn't it make sense that the initial velocity of the plane relative to the barge be 50 m/s? If so, why do the standard equations of motion not yield the correct answer.

P.S. I know you can also solve this question using W=Fd and solve for d, but I want to know how to do it with the relative motion specifically.

Homework Equations


Conservation of linear momentum, F=ma, E=1/2mv^2, W=E2-E1=Fd

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Newton's laws apply in an inertial reference frame: the frame of the water, for example.

Since the barge and plane both accelerate, you cannot apply Newton's laws in the frame of the barge.
 
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Dr. Courtney said:
Newton's laws apply in an inertial reference frame: the frame of the water, for example.

Since the barge and plane both accelerate, you cannot apply Newton's laws in the frame of the barge.
Thank you so much. I was blind but now I see.
 

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