Infinite Cubical Well in Cartesian Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around solving the infinite cubical well problem using separation of variables in Cartesian coordinates. The potential is defined as zero within a cube of side length 'a' and infinite outside of it, leading to a quantum mechanics context involving energy states and wave functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of separation of variables and the implications of dividing by the wave function. There are questions about the representation of energy in multiple dimensions and the correctness of derived energy equations.

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Some participants have offered guidance on manipulating the equations, while others are exploring the implications of their findings. There is an ongoing examination of the energy equation derived by one participant, with suggestions for adjustments and clarifications being made.

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Participants express urgency due to an upcoming quiz, indicating a time constraint that may affect the depth of exploration in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Use separation of variables in cartesian coordinates to solve the infinite cubical well (or "particle in a box"):

[tex]V(x,y,z) = \{^{0, if x, y, z are all between 0 and a;}_{\infty , otherwise.}[/tex]


Homework Equations


Well, I've been trying to use
[tex]\frac{1}{2}mv^{2} + V = \frac{1}{2m}(P^{2}_{x} + P^{2}_{y} + P^{2}_{z}) + V = E\Psi[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\frac{1}{2}mv^{2} + V = \frac{1}{2m}(P^{2}_{x} + P^{2}_{y} + P^{2}_{z}) + V = E\Psi[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2m}(P^{2}_{x} + P^{2}_{y} + P^{2}_{z}) + V = \frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial x^{2}} + V_{x} + \frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial y^{2}} + V_{y} + \frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial z^{2}} + V_{z}[/tex]

[tex]\hat{H}_{x} = \frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial x^{2}} + V_{x}[/tex]

[tex]\hat{H}_{y} = \frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial y^{2}} + V_{y}[/tex]

[tex]\hat{H}_{z} = \frac{-\hbar^{2}}{2m}\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial z^{2}} + V_{z}[/tex]

[tex]\Psi = X(x)Y(y)Z(z)[/tex]

[tex](\hat{H}_{x} + \hat{H}_{y} + \hat{H}_{z})(X(x)Y(y)Z(z)) = E*(X(x)Y(y)Z(z))[/tex]

So getting it here doesn't really tell me what the energies are. Can I cancel out [tex]\Psi[/tex]?
 
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Look in a math book on "separation of variable".
You can divide each side by XYZ.
Then use the fact that YZ cancels from H_x(XYZ)/YZ.
 
So, if I divide by [tex](X(x)Y(y)Z(z))[/tex] from both sides, then I end up with:

[tex]\hat{H} = E[/tex]?
 
Would it be logical to denote energy in an dimension, like in the x-direction and y-direction and z-direction? (ie. [tex]E = (E_{x} + E_{y} + E_{z})[/tex]
 
Yes, you have H_x X=E_x X.
This has a simple (sin) solution since X must be zero at x=0 and a.
 
Well, I was a bit rushed to get my homework in on time; but for my energy equation I got:

[tex]E_{n} = \frac{\hbar^{2} \pi^{2}}{2m}(n^{2}_{x} + n^{2}_{y} + n^{2}_{z})[/tex]

Does that look right? I'd still like to see if what I did was correct or not.
 
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Rahmuss said:
Well, I was a bit rushed to get my homework in on time; but for my energy equation I got:

[tex]E_{n} = \frac{\hbar^{2} \pi^{2}}{2m}(n^{2}_{x} + n^{2}_{y} + n^{2}_{z})[/tex]

Does that look right? I'd still like to see if what I did was correct or not.
You left out /L^2 of the side.
 
[tex]E_{n} = \frac{\hbar^{2} \pi^{2}}{2mL^{2}}(n^{2}_{x} + n^{2}_{y} + n^{2}_{z})[/tex]?

It's important that I know this stuff because we're having a quiz on it tomorrow.
 

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