Infinite Series: Finding the Sum and General Term for Convergent Power Series

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The discussion revolves around finding the sum and general term for a convergent power series, specifically focusing on writing the first three nonzero terms and determining the series' sum. The participants are exploring concepts related to infinite series and integration within the context of power series.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the general term of the series and the process of integrating the general term to find the sum. Questions arise regarding the necessity of limits of integration and how to handle the variables involved in the integration.

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There is ongoing exploration of the integration process and its implications for finding the series' sum. Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the integration and the interpretation of limits, while others express confusion about specific steps and the overall setup of the problem.

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Participants mention the interval of convergence for the power series and the need to clarify the original problem statement, which includes links to external resources that may not be accessible to all. There is also a reference to the limits of integration being set between 0 and 1, which is under discussion.

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http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP167199e5bhg1gg5673i000048ed16i8cbf5iacg?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=14&w=256&h=40

for all x in the interval of convergence of the given power series.

a) write the first 3 nonzero terms and the general term for an infinite series that represents http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP34199e5dhc325d3hd200005ag14201e835f640?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=52&w=70&h=36

b) Find the sum of the series as determined in part a.

I have no idea how to do these two parts. I just don't know where to begin. Any help is appreciated thanks.
 
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Your general term is

\frac{(n+1)x^n}{3^{n+1}}

so your sum can be represented as

f(x) = \sum_{n=0} ^N \frac{(n+1)x^n}{3^{n+1}}

Now when you integrate within the summation sign, you just integrate what is being summed

e.g.

\int \sum_{n=0} ^N f(x) dx = \sum_{n=0} ^N \int f(x) dx
 
Okay so I can just take the integral of the general term and find the sum of the first 3 nonzero terms?
 
sobek said:
Okay so I can just take the integral of the general term and find the sum of the first 3 nonzero terms?

Yes, then you can write out the first three terms and easily find a closed form for the sum.
 
Ok, I understand that, but what exactly are the limits of integration (0,1) there for?
 
sobek said:
Ok, I understand that, but what exactly are the limits of integration (0,1) there for?

Because you will need to integrate between those limits

\sum_{n=0} ^N \int_0 ^1 f(x) dx
 
Agh! Ok I'm confused. If I'm just taking the integral of the general form, do I still need those limits? Or am I doing a Fundamental Theorem thing?
 
sobek said:
Agh! Ok I'm confused. If I'm just taking the integral of the general form, do I still need those limits? Or am I doing a Fundamental Theorem thing?

yes you would still need those limits. It would be equivalent of doing the integral between those limits of every term.


Thus you just need to compute

\int_0 ^1 \frac{(n+1)x^n}{3^{n+1}}dx
 
Okay so how exactly would I integrate this? Seeing as there are two variables.
 
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sobek said:
Okay so how exactly would I integrate this? Seeing as there are two variables.

Treat 'n' as a constant.
 
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Ok so for the integral I got http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP758199e8ha121cf0a4c00004ggc11fi1gf83a0h?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=29&w=34&h=40

Is that right?

and from that is the sum: infinity?
 
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sobek said:
Ok so for the integral I got http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP758199e8ha121cf0a4c00004ggc11fi1gf83a0h?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=29&w=34&h=40

Is that right?

and from that is the sum: infinity?

substitute the limits of the integral.


But now your sum will go from n=-1 to ∞
 
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Okay with the limits of integration substituted I got http://www2.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP344199e931ddgafc99d0000507h04h0277efcda?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=9&w=34&h=37

and then i find the first 3 nozero terms from that right?
 
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Now, I can't see the original question (the link to wolframalpha is dead), but this doesn't sound right.

Can you post the problem again, sobek?
 
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http://www2.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP608199e96816fc40d8a000022aig2805fea6cad?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=10&w=65&h=38

for all x in the interval of convergence of the given power series.

a) write the first 3 nonzero terms and the general term for an infinite series that represents http://www2.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP179199e974h5cca8ib200004hf8af3ab6c4i576?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=12&w=70&h=36

b) Find the sum of the series as determined in part a.

I'm still having trouble on part A
 
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  • #16
Okay, I see it now.

sobek said:
Okay with the limits of integration substituted I got http://www2.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP344199e931ddgafc99d0000507h04h0277efcda?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=9&w=34&h=37

and then i find the first 3 nozero terms from that right?

Yes.

Assuming your original power series started at n=0, start from there.

Let n=0 in \frac 1{3^{n+1}} to find the first term. Then let n=1 to find your next, etc.
 
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Okay so my math in getting https://www.physicsforums.com/latex_images/26/2602939-0.png was right?

and because it's a geometric series I can use a/1-r to find the sum right?
 
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  • #18
Yes and yes.
 
  • #19
Thanks to rocknerd667 and mathnerdmo for helping me with this problem
 

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