Infinite Series without an x term

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The discussion centers around the concept and applications of infinite series that do not include an "x" variable, focusing on their evaluation in closed form and potential uses in mathematics and physics. Participants explore the implications of such series, particularly those that depend solely on the index "n".

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the usefulness of an infinite series that sums terms based solely on their position, or "n", and wonders about its evaluation in closed form.
  • Another participant provides an example involving stacked charged disks to illustrate a numerical application of such a series.
  • A different participant expresses curiosity about the application of numerical summation to trigonometric functions in closed form.
  • One participant raises the idea that a series involving only "n" might lead to considerations related to Dirichlet series.
  • Another participant notes that a series without an "x" variable is a numerical series, which is typically studied before series of functions, emphasizing the distinction between numerical and functional series.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications and applications of numerical series without an "x" variable, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the limitations or assumptions regarding the definitions of numerical versus functional series, nor does it clarify the conditions under which the closed forms of such series may be applicable.

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Infinite Series without an "x" term

What are the uses of an infinite series which does not include an "x" variable? If you are looking at an infinite series which sums terms based entirely upon each term's position in the series, or, a series which includes only the variable "n," how would that series be useful once evaluated in closed form?

Let's say you could evaluate a series, which only included "n," to the closed form of a trigonometric function. Would that be realistic since, the function would potentially have to be applied only to an "x" value of 1?

Or, where in physics would one need a purely numerical summation?

Thank you, sincerely.
 
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Say that you're stacking charged disks.

Imagine, for the sake of simplicity, the force is such that the top disk is 1 m above the disk below it, that disk is 1/2 m above the disk below it, that disk is 1/4 m above the disk below it, etc.

Then I ask you how high the stack is.
 


Thank you. I greatly appreciate the example. As simple and obvious that may have seemed, I failed to consider such a simple numerical application.

Adding to that, could anyone tell me about the numerical summation applied to a trigonometric function (closed form)?
 


Does a series involving only "n" automatically lead one to consider Dirichlet?
 


This is really a very peculiar question. If there is no variable 'x' in a series, then it is a numerical series rather than a series of functions. And one normally studies numerical series before series of functions, defining the sum of a series of functions to be the function that gives the value of the numerical series you get for each specific value of x.
 

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