Infinite Square Well - Particle in linear combination of states

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The discussion revolves around a particle of mass m trapped in a one-dimensional infinite square well, specifically focusing on its state as a linear combination of the ground state and the first excited state. Participants are exploring how to express the wave function \(\Psi(x,t)\) in this context, particularly with respect to the expectation value of momentum.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the wave function as a linear combination of states, questioning how to determine the coefficients \(c_0\) and \(c_1\). There is also exploration of the implications of the expectation value of momentum being maximized at \(t=0\) and the normalization of the wave function.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the problem, suggesting that it may be ill-posed due to the lack of a well-defined momentum observable in the infinite square well. Others are seeking clarification on the meaning of the maximum expectation value of momentum and how to properly express the wave function.

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There is mention of specific requirements from the problem, including the need to find a normalized wave function and to verify various dynamical quantities while adhering to the uncertainty principle. Participants are grappling with the implications of these constraints on their approach.

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A particle of mass m is trapped in a one-dimensional infinite square well running from x= -L/2 to L/2. The particle is in a linear combination of its ground state and first excited state such that its expectation value of momentum takes on its largest possible value at t=0.I know the process of solving PDE's clear as day, that's not the issue. The problem is that I'm tripping myself out on how to write \Psi(x,t) as a linear combination of its ground state + first excited state.

My hunch is to approach the problem like this :

\Psi(x,t)=c_{0}\Psi_{0}(x,t)+c_{1}\Psi_{1}(x,t)

where 0 and 1 represent the ground state and first state, respectively

I'm confusing myself on what needs to fill in the equations! Any help would be appreciated.
 
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The clever answer is that this problem is ill-posed, because strictly speaking a particle in an infinite-square well has no momentum observable, but I'm pretty sure that this is not what the professor wants to know ;-).

So guess you are supposed to find c_0 and c_1 such that the naive "momentum"-expectation value
\int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \mathrm{d} x \; \psi^*(x,t) \left (-\hbar \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d} x} \psi(x,t) \right )=\text{max},
where \psi must be properly normalized, i.e.,
\int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \mathrm{d} x \; |\psi(x,t)|^2=0.
 
vanhees71 said:
The clever answer is that this problem is ill-posed, because strictly speaking a particle in an infinite-square well has no momentum observable, but I'm pretty sure that this is not what the professor wants to know ;-).

So guess you are supposed to find c_0 and c_1 such that the naive "momentum"-expectation value
\int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \mathrm{d} x \; \psi^*(x,t) \left (-\hbar \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d} x} \psi(x,t) \right )=\text{max},
where \psi must be properly normalized, i.e.,
\int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \mathrm{d} x \; |\psi(x,t)|^2=0.

thanks! that makes sense. By the way, the problem wants me to find the nomalized ψ(x,t) and the usual dynamical quantities (<x>, <p>, check m(d/dx)<x>=p, Δx, Δp, check ΔxΔp satisfies uncertainty principle)

how do we write ψ(x,t) as a linear combination of its ground and first excited state like the problem asks??
 
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Just like you did in the original post.
 
I'm stuck on the fact that were given the phrase "expectation value of the momentum is a maximum when t=0."

the energy of the second state is higher than that of the first, which implies the momentum of the second state which is more than that in the first (ps- I'm just talking about expectation values)

Does anyone know what this means ?
 
Still confused about that phrase, if anyone has ideas please let me know ! Thanks
 

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