Infinite sum over exponentials

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of an infinite sum involving exponentials, specifically in the context of waves propagating around a ring. Participants explore the mathematical properties of the sum and its implications in sampling theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the sum \(\sum_{n=-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-2\pi i n k}\) and seeks guidance on how to approach it.
  • Another participant identifies the sum as a "Dirac comb," referencing its relevance in sampling theory.
  • A different approach is suggested, involving splitting the sum into two parts and applying the geometric series formula, while noting that certain values of \(k\) may complicate the use of this formula.
  • A participant expresses realization about the Dirac comb and acknowledges previous oversight regarding the divergence of the sum for integer values of the angular wavenumber \(\nu\).
  • There is mention of experimental observations in the amplitude spectrum that relate to the sum, indicating a connection between theory and practical results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the evaluation of the sum, as there are multiple approaches and some uncertainty regarding specific values of \(k\) that affect the outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations regarding the application of the geometric series formula, particularly for certain values of \(k\), and the divergence of the sum for integer values of \(\nu\).

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Hi,

I am looking at waves that go around a ring (monochromatic solution) and got stuck with the following expression:

[itex]\sum_{n=-\infty}^{+\infty} e^{-2\pi i n k}[/itex]

where k is an angular wavenumber that can take any real value. Anyone got an idea how to approach this?

Thanks.
 
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One way to see the result uart posted is as follows:

Split the sum up into two sums, one from -infinity to -1 and one from 0 to infinity, and then change variables in the first sum from n to -n. Both series are just geometric series, so you can perform the two sums using the geometric series formula and add the results together. The result you find might be unexpected to you. However, you're not done there - there is are particular values of k for which you can't use the geometric series formula. What happens to the sum at those values of k?
 
Uart - of course, how could I not see it! Sometimes you need someone else to point out the obvious...Thanks.

Mute, yes in my desperation I did try to do the geometric sum by taking n into the exponent but I thought you can only do this when the term under the exponent has an abs value <1? I did look at the case where the angular wavenumber \nu is an integer and of course the sum diverges for these values (can you believe I still didn't see the Dirac??). To add further to my ignorance I did actually see the pattern experimentally in the amplitude sprectrum...aaargh

Thanks again to both.
 

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