Infinitely Long Parallel Rectangular Parallel Strips (H field)

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The discussion revolves around the magnetic field generated by infinitely long parallel rectangular strips carrying current. Participants are analyzing the application of Ampere's law to determine the net magnetic field between the strips, considering the contributions from both strips and the implications of their currents being equal and opposite.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the completeness of the original solution regarding the net magnetic field between the strips, particularly whether the opposing contributions from both strips have been adequately considered. There is also discussion about the assumptions made regarding the magnetic field outside the strips.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about the reasoning presented. Some have suggested that the original poster's assumptions may not hold under certain conditions, particularly if the currents are not equal and opposite. There is a call for further opinions to clarify these points.

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Participants are navigating the implications of assumptions made in the problem statement, particularly regarding the conditions under which the magnetic field is considered to be contained entirely between the strips. The discussion highlights the importance of verifying the equality and directionality of the currents in the strips.

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I have some concerns about his solution for part a).

I agree with how he's evaluated Ampere's law to find the field due to one of the strips at any point between the plates, but if you want to know the net field inbetween the strips, I think you must consider what the opposing plate is doing as well.

He seems to have neglected this, am I correct?

For example, let's say we want to find the field a distance z from the bottom plate, or in other words a distance (a-z) from the top plate. (Assuming the Y-axis starts at the top edge of the bottom plate)

The net field should have two contributing fields, one from each plate respectively.

Does it just so happen that due to the symmetry of the problem that the summation of these two contributing fields always works out to be the answer he's given? (Anywhere inbetween the two plates of course)

How can you prove that this is indeed the case?
 

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I am unsure about the reasoning that I'm about to present, so check with someone else before accepting it.

It seems that he has indeed considered the opposing plate, because he's using the approximation that the field outside the two strips to be zero. If the two currents that are flowing in the strips were not equal in magnitude and opposite in direction, then there would be a net current flowing in one direction, and thus, according to the Ampere's circuital law, there would be a resultant non-zero magnetic field on the outside.
 
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omoplata said:
I am unsure about the reasoning that I'm about to present, so check with someone else before accepting it.

It seems that he has indeed considered the opposing plate, because he's using the approximation that the field outside the two strips to be zero. If the two currents that are flowing in the strips were not equal in magnitude and opposite in direction, then there would be a net current flowing in one direction, and thus, according to the Ampere's circuital law, there would be a resultant non-zero magnetic field on the outside.

He states in the question, "Assuming that the magnetic field is contained entirely between the strips" so there is no field outside.
 
jegues said:
He states in the question, "Assuming that the magnetic field is contained entirely between the strips" so there is no field outside.
I think that assumption can only be made if the currents in the strips are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. Because if you apply Ampere's circuital law to a loop around both strips, if there is a net current in one direction, the line integral of the magnetic field is going to be non-zero.

So, if the currents are not equal in magnitude and opposite in direction, a zero outside magnetic field is a physical impossibility, and implies that the Ampere's circuital law is wrong.

Anyway, I would also welcome someone else's opinion on this.
 
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