Infinitesimal Perturbation in a potential well

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The discussion centers on calculating the second-order energy correction in quantum mechanics using perturbation theory. The first-order correction is confirmed to be zero when evaluating the expectation values of the perturbation term ##\epsilon##. The correct expression for the second-order correction is established as ##E_0^2=\sum_{m\neq 0} \frac{(<\psi^0_m|V|\psi^0_0>)^2}{E_0^0-E^0_m}##, where ##V(x)## is defined piecewise based on the potential well. The participants emphasize the importance of correctly identifying the indices and signs in the summation to ensure accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement
In an infinite potential well, two small constant perturbations \epsilon are added in the two opposite corners of the well in an infinitesimal extent (\delta). In what order of \epsilon the correction to the ground state energy would be? See the attached file.
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<psi|Hp|psi>=E1
If I calculate ## <\psi^0|\epsilon|\psi^0>## and ## <\psi^0|-\epsilon|\psi^0>## separately and then add, the correction seems to be 0 since ##\epsilon## is a constant perturbation term.
SO how should I approach this? And how the Δ is relevant in this calculation?
 

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Yes, the first-order correction is zero. Are you familiar with how to calculate the second-order correction to the energy?
 
Baibhab Bose said:
If I calculate ## <\psi^0|\epsilon|\psi^0>## and ## <\psi^0|-\epsilon|\psi^0>## separately and then add, the correction seems to be 0 since ##\epsilon## is a constant perturbation term.
Careful with the notation. ## <\psi^0|\epsilon|\psi^0>## and ## <\psi^0|-\epsilon|\psi^0>## are not what you need to calculate for the first-order correction.

Rather, the expression you need to consider is ##<\psi^0|V(x)|\psi^0>##, where ##V(x)## is the perturbation:

##V(x) = -\epsilon## for ##0<x<\Delta##
##V(x) = + \epsilon## for ##a-\Delta < x < a##
##V(x) = 0##, otherwise.

(Here I assumed the origin x = 0 is at the left end of the well.)

For example, your expression ## <\psi^0|-\epsilon|\psi^0>## does not take into account that the perturbation ##-\epsilon## is only over the range ##0<x<\Delta##.
 
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Yes, I know how 2nd order is calculated. $$ E^2_0=\sum_{n=/m} \frac{(<\psi_n|V|\psi_m>)^2}{E^0_n-E^0_m}$$
But I can't seem to practically calculate the correction in this case. Assuming ##\psi_n##s are ##\sqrt {\frac{2}{a}}sin(\frac{n\pi x}{a})## , what are the values of n's I'd have to limit to?
 
Baibhab Bose said:
$$ E^2_0=\sum_{n=/m} \frac{(<\psi_n|V|\psi_m>)^2}{E^0_n-E^0_m}$$
The right-hand side is not quite correct. There is nothing on your right-hand side that indicates that you are getting the second-order correction to the ground state. Also, be careful that you have the terms in the denominator in the correct order.

You will not have to work out the values of the matrix elements in order to answer the question. You will just need to consider whether or not the right-hand side overall is positive, negative, or zero.
 
Oh yes, so the correct form would be ## E_0^2=\sum_{n\neq m} \frac {(<\psi_m^0|V|\psi_0^0>)^2}{E^0_0-E^0_m}## for the ground state.
So in this question we just need the order of ##\epsilon## which, by speculation, would be ##\epsilon^2## since the 2nd order correction depends on square of the perturbation term!
But how do we ensure its sign?
 
Baibhab Bose said:
Oh yes, so the correct form would be ## E_0^2=\sum_{n\neq m} \frac {(<\psi_m^0|V|\psi_0^0>)^2}{E^0_0-E^0_m}## for the ground state.
This still needs a little fixing up. Your summation notation indicates that ##n## is the summation index, but the index ##n## does not appear in the expression following the summation symbol. Instead, it looks like maybe your expression is for ##m## as the summation index. Anyway, for whatever symbol you take to be the summation index, what particular value of this index is to be excluded in the summation?

So in this question we just need the order of ##\epsilon## which, by speculation, would be ##\epsilon^2## since the 2nd order correction depends on square of the perturbation term!
But how do we ensure its sign?
How does the value of ##E^0_0## compare to any other ##E^0_m##?
 
TSny said:
This still needs a little fixing up. Your summation notation indicates that ##n## is the summation index, but the index ##n## does not appear in the expression following the summation symbol. Instead, it looks like maybe your expression is for ##m## as the summation index. Anyway, for whatever symbol you take to be the summation index, what particular value of this index is to be excluded in the summation?

How does the value of ##E^0_0## compare to any other ##E^0_m##?
Oh, my bad !
## E_0^2=\sum_{m\neq 0} \frac{(<\psi^0_m|V|\psi^0_0>)^2}{E_0^0-E^0_m}##
Now,
##E_0^0##= unperturbed Ground state Wavefunction's Energy.
##E^0_m##=Unperturbed energy eigenvalue of the higher state wavefunctions, since m index represents states higher than the ground state, ##E_0^0-E^0_m## should be negative, right?
 
Baibhab Bose said:
Oh, my bad !
## E_0^2=\sum_{m\neq 0} \frac{(<\psi^0_m|V|\psi^0_0>)^2}{E_0^0-E^0_m}##
Now,
##E_0^0##= unperturbed Ground state Wavefunction's Energy.
##E^0_m##=Unperturbed energy eigenvalue of the higher state wavefunctions, since m index represents states higher than the ground state, ##E_0^0-E^0_m## should be negative, right?
Yes.
So, what about the numerators ##(<\psi^0_m|V|\psi^0_0>)^2##? Are any of these zero? Could they all be zero?
 
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There is nothing explicit in this theory which I think indicates that term being zero. So I would say it may/may not be 0?
 
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Baibhab Bose said:
There is nothing explicit in this theory which I think indicates that term being zero. So I would say it may/may not be 0?
Knowing the form of the perturbation and the form of the unperturbed energy eigenstates, you should be able to tell if a particular matrix element ##\langle \psi^0_m|V|\psi^0_0 \rangle## is zero. Hint: Think in terms of even or odd functions about the midpoint of the well.
 

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