Innner products and basis representation

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The discussion revolves around expressing coefficients in a linear combination of vectors in a vector space, specifically using inner products. Participants explore the implications of using orthonormal bases for this representation and seek clarification on the use of LaTeX for mathematical expressions.

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  • One participant asks how to express coefficients \( a_i \) in terms of \( X \) and \( U_i \) using inner products.
  • Another participant explains that if the basis \( U_i \) is orthonormal, the coefficients can be found using the inner product \( a_k = \langle X, U_k \rangle \). They note that for non-orthonormal bases, there is no simple formula.
  • A participant confirms that the basis is orthonormal and expresses concern about viewing LaTeX content in the thread.
  • Several participants discuss issues with viewing LaTeX, indicating that it should be visible without needing to download anything, but express difficulties in reading the specific LaTeX code provided.

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Participants generally agree on the use of inner products for orthonormal bases but express uncertainty regarding the visibility of LaTeX content and how to resolve it.

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There are limitations regarding the visibility of LaTeX expressions, which some participants find problematic. The discussion does not resolve how to address these visibility issues.

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hi, I have a quickon vector spaces.

Say for example we have


X = a1U1 + a2U2 ...anUn
this can be written as

X = sum of ( i=0 to n) ai Ui


now how can I get and expression of ai in therms of X and Ui.

do we use inner product to do this...ans someone please explain how to go forward.
 
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If the Ui basis is "orthonormal" then, taking the inner product of X with Uk gives [itex]<X, U_n]>= a_1 <U_1,U_k>+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_k<U_k,U_k>+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_n<U_n, U_k>= a_1(0)+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_k(1)+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_n(0)= a_k[/itex].

That is, for an orthonormal basis, [itex]a_k= <X, U_k>[/itex]. If the basis is NOT orthonormal, there is no simple formula. That's why orthonormal bases are so popular!
 
the basis is orthonormal...so the solution you suggested should be ok...however i don't have latex and have never used it before so can't view your reply. do I just downlad latex to view the thread or do I have to do something else.
 
thanks for the reply...as well.
 
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iontail said:
...however i don't have latex and have never used it before so can't view your reply. do I just downlad latex to view the thread or do I have to do something else.

Hi iontail! :smile:

You don't need to "have" LaTeX, it should be visible anyway.

There's just something wrong with that particular LaTeX …I can't read it either :rolleyes:

(I can't see what's wrong with the code though.)

To see the original code, just click on the REPLY button. :wink:
 
Here is what HallsofIvy want to write:

[tex]<X, U_n]>= a_1 <U_1,U_k>+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_k<U_k,U_k>+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_n<U_n, U_k>= a_1(0)+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_k(1)+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a_n(0)= a_k[/tex]
 

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