Integral and a derivative definition

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of integration by substitution in the context of a specific integral involving a derivative. Participants explore the mathematical rules that allow for the transformation of the integral and the implications of changing limits of integration.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of their approach to using u-substitution in the integral transformation, expressing confusion about the cancellation of ##dt## and the change of limits.
  • Another participant provides a general statement about the integration by substitution formula, outlining the conditions under which it applies.
  • A subsequent post reiterates the integration by substitution formula and seeks clarification on its relevance to the original question.
  • One participant explains that integration by substitution is akin to reversing the chain rule, suggesting that its validity stems from the established chain rule for differentiation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific application of integration by substitution to the original integral. There are multiple viewpoints regarding the understanding and implications of the mathematical rules involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the application of integration by substitution, particularly in relation to the specific integral presented and the assumptions about the functions involved.

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Hello,

I just whant to know what mathematical rule alows me to do this? I mean i think it is u-substitution, but i am not sure how it is done here? It is weird to me as it seems that ##dt## just cancel out and limits are changed...

$$
\int\limits_{0}^{t} \frac{dv}{dt} \cdot mv \gamma(v)\, dt = \int\limits_{0}^{v} mv \gamma(v)\, dv
$$
 
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Integration by Substitution:
Suppose ##I## is an interval. Let ##g : [a,b] \to I## have continuous derivative. Let ##f : I \to \mathbb{R}## be continuous. Then
##\int_{g(a)}^{g(b)} f(x) \, dx = \int_{a}^{b} (f \circ g)(t) \, g'(t) \, dt##
 
pwsnafu said:
Integration by Substitution:
Suppose ##I## is an interval. Let ##g : [a,b] \to I## have continuous derivative. Let ##f : I \to \mathbb{R}## be continuous. Then
##\int_{g(a)}^{g(b)} f(x) \, dx = \int_{a}^{b} (f \circ g)(t) \, g'(t) \, dt##

This is a basic formula yes i know, but how does this solve my case?
 
"Integration by substitution" is, essentially, the "chain rule" reversed. It is valid because the chain rule for differentiation is valid.
 

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