Integral Help: Solving for (z^2+x^2)^(-3/2) with Independent Variable z

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The discussion revolves around solving the integral \(\int\frac{1}{(z^2+x^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}dx\), where \(z\) is treated as an independent variable. The context includes methods of integration and verification of results, with references to electrodynamics.

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  • One participant requests help with the integral, indicating it has stumped them.
  • Another participant clarifies the integral notation and expresses uncertainty about how to present it more clearly.
  • A different participant proposes a substitution method involving \(x = z \tan(\theta)\) to simplify the integral, leading to a new form that can be integrated.
  • Another participant provides a solution, stating it as \(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z^{2} + x^{2}} z^{2}} + C\), but claims this answer is incorrect upon verification through differentiation.
  • One participant suggests that the previous method could contain a simple mistake and expresses confidence in the substitution method proposed earlier.
  • Another participant confirms that the substitution \(x = z \tan(u)\) leads to the correct answer, although they do not verify the earlier derivation.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the correctness of the provided solutions. Multiple competing views on the method and results remain unresolved.

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There are indications of missing assumptions or steps in the derivations, and the discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the validity of the proposed solutions.

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hi, i was readin through a textbook on electrodynamics and this integral has stumped me - can someone please tell me how to solve it-thanks!

[tex]\int\frac{1}{(z^2+x^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}dx[/tex]

where z is an independent variable, which can be treated as a constant
 
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thats meant to be the integral of 1 over (z^2+x^2)^(3/2) wrt x. don't no how to mak it bigger!
 
lavster said:
hi, i was readin through a textbook on electrodynamics and this integral has stumped me - can someone please tell me how to solve it-thanks!

[tex]\int\frac{1}{(z^2+x^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}dx[/tex]

where z is an independent variable, which can be treated as a constant
Use the fact that [itex]1+ tan^2(\theta)= sec^2(\theta)[/itex] so that [itex]\sqrt{1+ tan^2(\theta)}= sec(\theta)[/itex] to get rid of the square root.

Specifically, let [itex]x= z tan(\theta)[/itex] so that [itex]z^2+ x^2= z^2+ z^2tan^2(\theta)= z^2(1+ tan^2(\theta))[/itex] and then [itex]\sqrt{z^2+ x^2}= z sec(\theta)[/itex].

Of course, you will also need to set [itex]dx= z sec^2(\theta)d\theta[/itex] so the integral becomes
[tex]\int \frac{1}{z^3 sec^3theta)} (z sec^2(\theta)d\theta= \frac{1}{z^2}\int \frac{1}{sec(\theta)}d\theta[/tex]

Now, since [itex]sec(\theta)= 1/cos(\theta)[/itex], that integral becomes
[tex]\frac{1}{z^2}\int cos(\theta)d\theta=\frac{1}{z^2} sin(\theta)+ C[/tex].

Since [itex]tan(\theta)= x/z[/itex], you can imagine a right triangle with "opposite side" x and "near side" z. Then the hypotenuse has length [itex]\sqrt{x^2+ z^2}[/itex], [itex]sin(\theta)[/itex]= "opposite side over hypotenuse" or [itex]x/\sqrt{x^2+ z^2}[/itex] so the integral is
[tex]\frac{xz^2}{x^2+ z^2}+ C[/tex]
 
[tex] \int \bigl(z^{2} + x^{2}\bigr)^{-3/2} d x = \frac{x}{\sqrt{z^{2} + x^{2}} z^{2}}+C[/tex]
 
lavster said:
hi, i was readin through a textbook on electrodynamics and this integral has stumped me - can someone please tell me how to solve it-thanks!

[tex]\int\frac{1}{(z^2+x^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}dx[/tex]

where z is an independent variable, which can be treated as a constant

The above answer (from HallsofIvy) is not correct which can be verified by taking the derivative and checking.

It's not clear if you want the answer or the method. The answer is

[tex]{{x}\over{z^2 \sqrt{z^2+x^2}}} + C[/tex]

Knowing the answer, you can prove it by taking the derivative and verifying. Reversing the steps gives you a method to solve, although seeing that method beforehand would not be easy and there are more elegant methods I'm sure. Perhaps there is a simple mistake in the above method and it can be salvaged.
 
elect_eng said:
Perhaps there is a simple mistake in the above method and it can be salvaged.

Just to add a comment here. I did check using the substitution x=ztan(u) as suggested by HallsofIvy. This works and leads to the correct answer. Although I didn't check the above derivation, I have to assume that there is a simple mistake. The basic suggested approach appears to be a good one.
 

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