Undergrad Integral in a variational principle problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific integral related to the variational principle in Griffith's book. The original poster is struggling to complete the integration after reaching the final step and seeks assistance. Suggestions include using properties of Gaussian functions to simplify the integral and referencing standard integrals found in the back cover of the book. Additional advice mentions transforming to polar coordinates and using integration by parts to derive necessary results. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of familiarizing oneself with common integrals in the context of variational principles.
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Trying to solve the integral, for variational principle in griffith's book.
But I'm stuck at the final step. Can you please help?
Hi, I am trying to solve the problem in Griffith's book about variational principle. However, I am having trouble to solve the integral by myself that I have indicated in redbox in Griffith's book. You can see my effort in hand-written pages. I brought it to the final step I believe, but can't go further. A little bit help to finish the integration would do great! Thanks for your help in advance!
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MrMuscle said:
Summary: Trying to solve the integral, for variational principle in griffith's book.
But I'm stuck at the final step. Can you please help?

Hi, I am trying to solve the problem in Griffith's book about variational principle. However, I am having trouble to solve the integral by myself that I have indicated in redbox in Griffith's book. You can see my effort in hand-written pages. I brought it to the final step I believe, but can't go further. A little bit help to finish the integration would do great! Thanks for your help in advance!
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You could make ##e^{-2bx^2}## look like a Gaussian zero-mean probability density function and use known results for the area under the curve and the variance.
 
MrMuscle said:
Summary: Trying to solve the integral, for variational principle in griffith's book.
But I'm stuck at the final step. Can you please help?

Hi, I am trying to solve the problem in Griffith's book about variational principle. However, I am having trouble to solve the integral by myself that I have indicated in redbox in Griffith's book. You can see my effort in hand-written pages. I brought it to the final step I believe, but can't go further. A little bit help to finish the integration would do great! Thanks for your help in advance!
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If you look inside the back cover of the Griffiths book you might find those standard integrals.

If you want to derive them yourself, the first can be done by a clever trick and transforming to polar coordinates; and the second can be reduced to the first using integration by parts.

PS I'm not sure how you got so far in the book without doing those integrals about 20 times already!
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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