Integral of 1/x in complex variables

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The discussion revolves around the integral of 1/x in the context of complex variable theory, specifically examining whether the integral can be expressed as ln|x| + c or if it can be simplified to ln(x) + c without the absolute value constraint. The scope includes theoretical aspects of complex integration and the properties of logarithmic functions in the complex plane.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the integral of 1/x can be expressed as ln(x) + c in complex variable theory, suggesting a relaxation of the absolute value constraint.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the equivalence of integrals in the complex plane compared to the real line, noting that the principal branch of the logarithm allows for the extension of logarithms of negative numbers.
  • A different participant points out that integrating over a closed path containing the origin complicates the situation, emphasizing that complex integration differs significantly from its real counterpart.
  • It is mentioned that the definition of ln(x) as a complex logarithm is complex and requires careful consideration of branches, with the derivative of the logarithm being consistent except along the branch cut.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of the logarithm in complex integration, with no consensus reached on whether ln(x) + c is valid without the absolute value. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of integrating around singularities in the complex plane.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the definition of the complex logarithm, the existence of branch cuts, and the behavior of integrals around singularities, which may affect the validity of certain expressions.

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Does \int 1/x dx = ln|x| + c in complex variable theory? Or can we relax the absolute value restraint of ln|x|? (as in, can it be ln(x) + c?)
 
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I'm not sure integrals work exactly the same in the complex plane, I highly doubt it but I haven't quite reached there in my textbook. However, choosing the principal branch of the log in the complex plane, we know from Euler that e^{i\pi}= -1 So the logs of negative numbers are quite easy to extend from the reals: \log (-b) = \log b + \log (-1) = \log b + i\pi
 
not if you are integrating over a closed path containing the origin. Although this is a correct answer it doesn't give much insight to your question..complex integration is significantly different from it's real analogue.

for example: lnx as a function is senseless unless you've defined lnx as the complex logarithm, which is actually pretty complicated as GibZ's msg above suggests.
 
It is true that if \log z is any logarithm along some branch B. Then (\log z)' = 1//z for all values not on B. No matter how you choose to define the complex logarithm there will be a branch where it will not be holomorphic. But it does exist at least partially.
 

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