Integral Q: s(x)<=f(x)<=t(x), Equal Areas?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of integrable functions and the relationship between the areas defined by two bounding functions, s(x) and t(x), with respect to a function f(x). Participants are exploring the implications of equal areas under these functions and the conditions for integrability.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the implications of equal areas between the bounding functions and the function f(x). Some participants clarify the definitions of step functions and Riemann sums, while others question the assumptions regarding the continuity of the functions involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the definitions and properties of integrable functions, with some providing clarifications on the nature of the bounding functions. There is a productive exchange regarding the correct formulation of the functions and their intervals.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the nature of the intervals for the bounding functions, with initial references to step functions being corrected to continuous functions. This highlights the importance of precise definitions in the context of integration.

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I am confused on what the paragraph is saying which is copied onto the paint document...
I think it is saying that the graph, which I added to the paint document, has two
Integrable function s(x) and t(x) in which s(x) <= f(x) <= t(x). If the rectangles that I highlighted in green and orange have equal areas then f(x) whose area is surrounded by these rectanels must be integrable because ∫s(x)dx = ∫t(x)dx on [a,b] . how far off am I?
 

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Remember that we used to calculate the area under a graph by drawing little rectangles below it? This is the generalisation of that procedure.

Note that it is only talking about step functions, i.e. functions of the form
[tex]s(x) = \begin{cases} c_0 & x \in [a_0, b_0], \\ c_1 & x \in [a_1, b_1], \\ \vdots & \vdots \\ c_n & x \in [a_n, b_n] \end{cases}[/tex]

The idea is, we define the integral of such a function, as
[tex]\int_{a_0}^{b_n} s(x) \, dx = \sum_{i = 0}^n c_i (b_i - a_i)[/tex]
Then we define the lower and upper Riemann sums of f as
[tex]I_{a}^{b}(f) = \sup_{s \le f} \int_a^b s(x) \, dx[/tex]
and
[tex]J_{a}^{b}(f) = \inf_{s \ge f} \int_a^b s(x) \, dx[/tex]
respectively. This is bascially a approximation with rectangles of the function f.

Now you have a sequence of inequalities like [itex]a \le I \le J \le d[/itex], and the second part of the theorem basically says that if a = d, then I = J.
In that case, we call I = J the integral of f, denoted by the familiar notation, and we call it integrable.

So we basically extend the "simple" intuitive definition to (almost) arbitrary functions.
 
CompuChip said:
Remember that we used to calculate the area under a graph by drawing little rectangles below it? This is the generalisation of that procedure.

Note that it is only talking about step functions, i.e. functions of the form
[tex]s(x) = \begin{cases} c_0 & x \in [a_0, b_0], \\ c_1 & x \in [a_1, b_1], \\ \vdots & \vdots \\ c_n & x \in [a_n, b_n] \end{cases}[/tex]

Is that what you meant to write?
 
Oops, of course I meant them to be continuous and open intervals, good catch!

[tex]s(x) = \begin{cases} c_0 & x \in )a_0, a_1), \\ c_1 & x \in (a_1, a_2), \\ \vdots & \vdots \\ c_n & x \in (a_n, a_{n + 1}) \end{cases}[/tex]
 

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