Integrate 1/3(x^2(50 - x^2)^(3/2))

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression 1/3(x^2(50 - x^2)^(3/2)), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques.

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  • Participants discuss various integration techniques, including integration by parts and trigonometric substitution. Some express confusion about the steps involved, while others attempt to clarify the manipulation of the expression.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different approaches and questioning the effectiveness of their methods. Some have suggested trigonometric substitution as a potential strategy, while others are still grappling with the initial steps of the integration process.

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There are indications of difficulty in understanding the notation used, with requests for clearer communication. Additionally, some participants express frustration regarding the complexity of the problem and its inclusion in their coursework.

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Homework Statement



How do you integrate: 1/3(x^2(50 - x^2)^(3/2))

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried by parts with no luck :(
 
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Start out by taking out x^2 to get
\frac{1}{x^2x^3(50x^{-2}-1)^{3/2}}
 
Sorry, it's kinda hard to read, I still don't follow.
 
Take out (x^2) from the denominator's root.
\int \frac{1}{3x^2(50-x^2)^{3/2}}dx = \int \frac{1}{3x^2x^3(50x^{-2}-1)^{3/2}} dx
 
Stochastic13 said:

Homework Statement



How do you integrate: 1/3(x^2(50 - x^2)^(3/2))

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried by parts with no luck :(
Do you mean: \displaystyle \int{\frac{1}{3x^2(50-x^{2})^{3/2}}}\,dx\ ?

What did you try for parts?

A trig. substitution may work better.
 
Oh, I see :) Very Nice, Thanks :)
 
For parts I tried u=x, dv=x(50-x^2)^(3/2)

How would you do it with trig sub?
 
actually I'm stuck after factoring out x^2 because I get: 1/3 * (50/(x^2) - 1)^(3/2), but I don't know how to proceed.
 
The x's don't cancel outside of the 3/2 root.
The second step would be to do a substitution of everything inside the 3/2 root.
\int \frac{1}{3x^2x^3(50x^{-2}-1)^{3/2}} dx
u = 50x^(-2) - 1
 
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The original equation is: (1/3)(x^2(50 - x^2)^(3/2)) when I take out x^2 I get: (1/3)(x^2*x^3(50/x^2 -1)^(1/3)) and if u= 50/x^2 -1 then du = -100/x^3 which doesn't help

P.S. Latex code that you are using doesn't work and it makes it real hard to understand what you mean, if you could just use the keyboard I would get a better idea of what you mean.
 
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Ah, sorry I thought it was all in the denominator.
For that one all I think of is a trig substitution, which isn't my best area.

But looking at it I'd think you want to try x = 5 sqrt(2) sin(u) so that you can get rid of the root into a cosine.
 
  • #12
Thanks I'll give it a shot.
 
  • #13
Yeah, it's a pretty nasty problem, I don't know why they would include it in our book without explanation.
 
  • #14
So, it really is: \displaystyle \int{\frac{1}{3}x^2(50-x^{2})^{3/2}}\,dx\ ?

For parts, I would use u = (1/3)(50-x^{2})^{3/2} & dv = x2dx.
 
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Ok I'll try that as well, thanks.
 

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