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how to solve this without expanding the numerator.
$\displaystyle \int\frac{(x-1)^3}{x^2}dx$
$\displaystyle \int\frac{(x-1)^3}{x^2}dx$
The discussion revolves around the integration of the function $\displaystyle \int\frac{(x-1)^3}{x^2}dx$ without expanding the numerator. Participants explore various methods and substitutions to approach the problem, including integration by parts and variable substitution.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the various solutions presented. Disagreement exists regarding the validity of the answers compared to textbook solutions, and multiple methods are proposed without clear resolution on which is preferable.
Some participants note the importance of back-substituting variables after transformations, and there are indications that different interpretations of the integral's solution may depend on the method chosen.
This discussion may be of interest to students and educators in mathematics, particularly those exploring integration techniques and the nuances of solving integrals without expanding expressions.
Not sure if this counts as cheating or not, but I'd say contract the numerator instead! (Bandit)paulmdrdo said:how to solve this without expanding the numerator.
$\displaystyle \int\frac{(x-1)^3}{x^2}dx$
paulmdrdo said:no, your answer doesn't match the answer in my book.
However, that doesn't make the one above incorrect. What form is given in your book? ;)paulmdrdo said:no, your answer doesn't match the answer in my book.
In the line just above that last one, the terms on the RHS encased in large brackets have already been back-substituted, so now I'll do the other bit:$$\frac{y^3}{(1-y)}+3y^2\log(1-y)-6\left(-\frac{1}{y}+\frac{y^2}{2}\log y-\frac{y^2}{4}\right)=$$$$\to$$$$\frac{(1-y)^3}{y}+3(1-y)^2\log y-6\left(-\frac{1}{y}+\frac{y^2}{2}\log y-\frac{y^2}{4}\right)=$$$$\frac{(1-y)^3}{y}+3(1-y)^2\log y+\frac{6}{y}-3y^2\log y+\frac{3y^2}{2}$$Also, y is a dummy variable here, much like your x, so the answer above is identical toDreamWeaver said:$$\frac{d}{dy}\frac{1}{(1-y)}=-\frac{1}{(1-y)^2}$$
$$\Rightarrow$$
$$\frac{y^3}{(1-y)}-3\int\frac{y^2}{(1-y)}
\,dy=$$
$$\frac{y^3}{(1-y)}-3\left[-y^2\log(1-y)+2\int y\log(1-y)\,dy\right]=$$
$$\frac{y^3}{(1-y)}+3y^2\log(1-y)-6\int y\log(1-y)\,dy$$For that last integral, use the same substitution as before to obtain
$$\int y\log(1-y)\,dy=-\int (1-y)\log y\,dy=-\frac{1}{y}+\int y\log y\,dy= $$
$$-\frac{1}{y}+\frac{y^2}{2}\log y-\frac{1}{2}\int y\,dy=$$
$$-\frac{1}{y}+\frac{y^2}{2}\log y-\frac{y^2}{4}$$
The final answer is then
$$\frac{y^3}{(1-y)}+3y^2\log(1-y)-6\left(-\frac{1}{y}+\frac{y^2}{2}\log y-\frac{y^2}{4}\right)=$$
$$\frac{y^3}{(1-y)}+3y^2\log(1-y)+\frac{6}{y}-3y^2\log y+\frac{3y^2}{2}$$
I don't know what the book says, but yours is not correct.DreamWeaver said:$$\frac{(1-x)^3}{x}+3(1-x)^2\log x+\frac{6}{x}-3x^2\log x+\frac{3x^2}{2}$$
Does that match your book?
This one is correct.bergausstein said:...$\displaystyle\int xdx-3\int dx+3\int\frac{1}{x}dx-\int\frac{dx}{x^2} = \frac{x^2}{2}-3x+3ln(x)+\frac{1}{x}+C$