Integrating 1/(1-x^2)^(1/2) using Substitution and Understanding Constant C

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The discussion focuses on integrating the function 1/(√(1-x²)) using various substitutions, including x = sin(u) and x = cos(u), which yield arcsin(x) + C and -arccos(x) + C, respectively. Participants clarify that the differences in the resulting expressions are due to the constant C, which can vary between integrals. Another substitution, x = tanh(u), leads to a more complex integral involving sech(u), but the participants note that different forms can still represent the same function upon further analysis. Ultimately, they emphasize that despite appearances, the integrals can be equivalent when plotted, highlighting the importance of understanding the constant of integration.
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I'm trying to integrate \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} with respect to x, using an appropriate substitution

I've tried using:

x = sin(u) which leads me to the integral being arcsin(x) + c
x = cos(u) which leads me to the integral being -arccos(x) + c

however I have drawn arcsin(x) and -arccos(x) and they are not the same, is this because of the constant C? I.e the constant is not necessarily the same in both of the integrals? (The graphs are on *close*.

Also, I've tried using the substitution x = tanh(u), this lead me to \displaystyle\int \dfrac{sech^2u}{1-sech^2u}\ du, where can I go from here?
 
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phospho said:
I'm trying to integrate \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} with respect to x, using an appropriate substitution

I've tried using:

x = sin(u) which leads me to the integral being arcsin(x) + c
x = cos(u) which leads me to the integral being -arccos(x) + c

however I have drawn arcsin(x) and -arccos(x) and they are not the same, is this because of the constant C? I.e the constant is not necessarily the same in both of the integrals? (The graphs are on *close*.
Yes, you're right. It's the constant. With the correct choices, those two expressions are equal.

Also, I've tried using the substitution x = tanh(u), this lead me to \displaystyle\int \dfrac{sech^2u}{1-sech^2u}\ du, where can I go from here?
You have the identity ##\cosh^2 u - \sinh^2 u = 1##. You should be able to show the denominator is equal to ##\tanh^2 u##.
 
vela said:
Yes, you're right. It's the constant. With the correct choices, those two expressions are equal.


You have the identity ##\cosh^2 u - \sinh^2 u = 1##. You should be able to show the denominator is equal to ##\tanh^2 u##.

thanks,

for the substitution of x = tanh(u) I seem to have gone wrong some where and I do not end up with what I originally posted:

x = tanh(u)
\dfrac{dx}{du} = sech^2u
\displaystyle\int \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}\ dx = \displaystyle\int \dfrac{sech^2u}{\sqrt{1 - tanh^2u}}\ du = \displaystyle\int sech(u)\ du now I can integrate sech(u) by using the exponential form, however this becomes messy and I end up getting something more complex.
 
I should have looked at your work more carefully. I didn't notice the mistake either.

You can get quite different looking expressions that at first glance don't appear to be equal, but you can eventually show that they are.
 
phospho said:
now I can integrate sech(u) by using the exponential form, however this becomes messy and I end up getting something more complex.
I found ##\int \text{sech }u\,du = \tan^{-1} \sinh u## while Mathematica gave me ##\int \text{sech }u\,du = 2\tan^{-1} \tanh(u/2)##. If you plug in ##u=\tanh^{-1} x##, you get expressions which don't seem to be equal to arcsin x, but in fact they are, which you can see by plotting the functions.
 
vela said:
I found ##\int \text{sech }u\,du = \tan^{-1} \sinh u## while Mathematica gave me ##\int \text{sech }u\,du = 2\tan^{-1} \tanh(u/2)##. If you plug in ##u=\tanh^{-1} x##, you get expressions which don't seem to be equal to arcsin x, but in fact they are, which you can see by plotting the functions.

Thanks for your help!
 
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