Integrating ##\sigma=\chi\int{dA/A}## for a sphere

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The integration of the equation ##\sigma=\chi\int{dA/A}## for a sphere leads to the conclusion that ##\sigma(R)=\chi(R^2/R_0^2-1)##, contrary to the incorrect result of ##\sigma(R)=2\chi \ln\frac{R}{R_0}## obtained by some users. The ambiguity in the interpretation of the integral, particularly regarding the variable A, is clarified as representing the area of the sphere, specifically ##A=4\pi R^2##. Additionally, ##\sigma(R)## is identified as the surface tension, while ##\chi## denotes the stiffness of the spherical bubble, which is assumed constant throughout the discussion.

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Integral of ##\sigma=\chi\int{dA/A}## for a sphere assuming a constant and surface-area independent ##\chi##
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I am trying to integrate ##\sigma=\chi\int{dA/A}## for a sphere. The answer is supposed to be ##\sigma(R)=\chi(R^2/R_0^2-1)##
I am trying to integrate ##\sigma=\chi\int\frac{dA}{A}## for a sphere. The answer is supposed to be ##\sigma(R)=\chi(R^2/R_0^2-1)##. The answer I keep getting is ##\sigma(R)=2\chi ln\frac{R}{R_0}##. I also tried doing it in spherical coordinates, and all I get for the integration of ##\int_0^\frac{\pi}{2}\frac{dA}{A}=1##. Not sure where I am going wrong... please help!
 
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It would help if you show us how you obtained your answer.
 
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MartynaJ said:
Homework Statement:: Integral of ##\sigma=\chi\int{dA/A}## for a sphere assuming a constant and surface-area independent ##\chi##
Is this all there is to the homework statement? If there is more, please post exactly as given to you.

Also, ##\sigma=\chi\int{dA/A}## is ambiguous. Is it ##\sigma=\chi\int{\dfrac{dA}{A}}## or ##\sigma=\chi\dfrac{1}{A}\int{dA}##? In the second interpretation ##A## stands for the area of the sphere, presumably of radius ##R_0##. Finally, it would help if you told us whether there is some physical meaning to ##\sigma(R).##
 
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kuruman said:
Is this all there is to the homework statement? If there is more, please post exactly as given to you.

Also, ##\sigma=\chi\int{dA/A}## is ambiguous. Is it ##\sigma=\chi\int{\dfrac{dA}{A}}## or ##\sigma=\chi\dfrac{1}{A}\int{dA}##? In the second interpretation ##A## stands for the area of the sphere, presumably of radius ##R_0##. Finally, it would help if you told us whether there is some physical meaning to ##\sigma(R).##
 
It's ##\sigma=\chi\int{\dfrac{dA}{A}}##. Also ##\sigma(R)## is the surface tension and ##\chi## is the stiffness of the spherical bubble (assumed to be constant).
 
MartynaJ said:
It's ##\sigma=\chi\int{\dfrac{dA}{A}}##. Also ##\sigma(R)## is the surface tension and ##\chi## is the stiffness of the spherical bubble (assumed to be constant).
I don't think any of us reading this understand what is meant by the A in the denominator. The dA in the numerator suggests an area element for an integral performed over the surface of a sphere, presumably of radius R, but then the A in the denominator would have to be a function of the chosen element.
From the answer you got, I am guessing you substituted ##A=4\pi r^2## in both places and treated at as an integral dr.
 
MartynaJ said:
It's ##\sigma=\chi\int{\dfrac{dA}{A}}##. Also ##\sigma(R)## is the surface tension and ##\chi## is the stiffness of the spherical bubble (assumed to be constant).
According to the desired answer, ##\sigma(R_0)=0.## Why is the surface tension zero for a specific value of the bubble radius?
 

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