Integration Intuition for work between x1 and x2

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a force defined as F=bx³, where b is given as 3.7 N/m³, while moving an object from x=0.00 m to x=2.6 m. Participants are exploring the integration of the force function to determine the work done, questioning the underlying concepts and intuition behind this process.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of integrating to find the area under the curve of the force function and express uncertainty about the reasoning behind this method. Questions arise regarding the implications of the force being raised to the third power and its relationship to acceleration and jerk. There is also curiosity about the origin of the constant b and the physical meaning of its units.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on various aspects of the problem, including the meaning of proportionality and the concept of gradient. Some have provided insights into the relationship between force and distance, while others are still grappling with foundational concepts.

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Participants express uncertainty about the appropriateness of their questions and the clarity of their understanding, indicating a need for further exploration of the concepts involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


A force F=bx3 acts in the x direction, where the value of b is 3.7N/m3. How much work is done by this force in moving an object from x=0.00m to x=2.6m?

Homework Equations


W=F*D
∫undu = (u(n+1)/(n+1))+C

The Attempt at a Solution


I know from previous problems that I'm going to integrate to find the area under the curve bx3 from 0 to 2.6 but I don't have the intuition as to why. I don't really understand why I'm doing this besides the face that I see a function raised to a power and not much more information is given. I'm following a pattern based on a pattern I see. I get that the force is changing in the y coordinate and that the x coordinate I'm worried about goes from 0 to 2.6 and I'm finding the area using integration but is the force a jerk because it's raised to the 3rd power, would it be acceleration if raised to the second power? I remember doing derivatives and thinking this. How did they come up with b? How did b come to be? What measuring device gives a reading like 3.7N/m3? I'm not even sure I'm asking the right questions but I want to fully understand this.
 
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Joshb60796 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I know from previous problems that I'm going to integrate to find the area under the curve bx3 from 0 to 2.6 but I don't have the intuition as to why.

If you consider a force F moving its point of application an infinitesimal distance 'dx', then the work done within in this distance is dW = F dx

For the work done over the entire distance from x2 to x1

\int_{0} ^W 1 dW = \int_{x_1} ^{x_2} F dx \Rightarrow W = \int_{x_1} ^{x_2} F dx

Graphically, this represents the area under the force-distance curve.


Joshb60796 said:
I don't really understand why I'm doing this besides the face that I see a function raised to a power and not much more information is given. I'm following a pattern based on a pattern I see. I get that the force is changing in the y coordinate and that the x coordinate I'm worried about goes from 0 to 2.6 and I'm finding the area using integration but is the force a jerk because it's raised to the 3rd power, would it be acceleration if raised to the second power? I remember doing derivatives and thinking this. How did they come up with b? How did b come to be? What measuring device gives a reading like 3.7N/m3? I'm not even sure I'm asking the right questions but I want to fully understand this.

What could happen to get such a formula is that based on measuring force with distance, you could find that F∝x3 such that F= bx3. If you plot a graph of F against x3, the gradient would be 'b'.

To get what units 'b' would have, the units of the product of 'bx3' would need to be Newtons (N); x is in m.

so N = b*m3 such that b = N/m3. So you would not always have an instrument measuring something in N/m3 but you might be able to figure it out based on other data.
 
Thank you sir for your insight. What was that symbol you used after F? I've never seen it before. Also, what is a gradient exactly? Is it like a coefficient that changes? I've only had up to Calculus 2 so far.
 
Joshb60796 said:
Thank you sir for your insight. What was that symbol you used after F? I've never seen it before. Also, what is a gradient exactly? Is it like a coefficient that changes? I've only had up to Calculus 2 so far.

The ∝ ? I am not sure why it appears so small but it is the symbol for 'directly proportional to' so as one increases, the other increases by a set amount.

Gradient refers to a rate of change. In the straight line equation y=mx+c, the gradient would be equal to m. Such that the change in the distance y (denoted by Δy) divided by the change in the distance x (Δx) is equal to m.

Δy/Δx = m

For more information on a basic method on how gradient or slope is calculated, you can read here.
 
oh ok, I didn't realize that gradient was synonymous to slope. Thank you for the explanation.
 

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