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The discussion revolves around the integral $$\int e^{x+e^x}\,dx$$, focusing on techniques such as substitution and integration by parts.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore substitution with $$u=e^x$$ and discuss the implications of correctly identifying $$du$$. There are attempts to clarify the transformation of the integral and the relationship between $$dx$$ and $$du$$.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the steps taken in the substitution process, and clarifying how to properly express the integral in terms of $$u$$. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct formulation of $$du$$.

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There is an emphasis on ensuring that the substitution is correctly applied, with some participants noting discrepancies in the transformation of variables. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the differences in their result compared to the textbook answer.

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1. $$\int e^{x+e^x}\,dx$$

Homework Equations



Substitution, integration by parts

The Attempt at a Solution



$$u=e^x$$ $$\int e^{x+e^x}\,dx = \int e^x e^{e^x}\,dx = \int ue^u\,du$$
$$a=u$$ $$da=1du$$ $$dv=e^udu$$ $$v=e^u$$
$$=ue^u-\int e^u\,du = ue^u-e^u$$ $$=e^x e^{e^x}+e^{e^x} = e^{x+e^x}-e^{e^x} + C$$

The textbook's answer was $$e^{e^x} +C$$ How come my answer is different? Any help is much appreciated.
 
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physics604 said:
1. $$\int e^{x+e^x}\,dx$$

Homework Equations



Substitution, integration by parts

The Attempt at a Solution



$$u=e^x$$
What is du? It is very important to also write du when you make a substitution u = <something>. In this case (and often), du is NOT equal to dx.
physics604 said:
$$\int e^{x+e^x}\,dx = \int e^x e^{e^x}\,dx = \int ue^u\,du$$
$$a=u$$ $$da=1du$$ $$dv=e^udu$$ $$v=e^u$$
$$=ue^u-\int e^u\,du = ue^u-e^u$$ $$=e^x e^{e^x}+e^{e^x} = e^{x+e^x}-e^{e^x} + C$$

The textbook's answer was $$e^{e^x} +C$$ How come my answer is different? Any help is much appreciated.
 
$$du=e^xdx$$
How does this work into the calculation?
 
physics604 said:
$$du=e^xdx$$
But that's not what you did. You turned ##e^xdx## into ##udu##.
 
∫ex+exdx=∫exeexdx=∫ueudu

Do you mean I should do something like this? $$\int e^x\,dx = \int e^xe^{e^x}\,dx = \int ue^u\,e^x dx$$ But the point of my substitution was to turn everything into u's...
 
You have ##\int e^x e^{e^x}dx##
u = ex, so du = exdx

What does your integral look like using this substution?
 
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Oh, I got it now. Thanks! My integral would be

$$\int e^u\,du$$
 

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