Intensity of an electromagnetic wave, given only rms value of magnetic field

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The discussion focuses on calculating the intensity of an electromagnetic wave given the root mean square (RMS) value of the magnetic field, specifically Brms = 0.137 T. The user correctly applies the equations E = cB and I = (ErmsBrms) / μ0, resulting in an electric field E of 4.11 x 107 V/m and an intensity I of 4.47 x 1012 W/m2. Despite these calculations, the user finds that their answer does not match the provided choices, prompting a discussion on the validity of using RMS values in these equations.

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Homework Statement


Hi, here is the problem I'm having trouble with:

The rms value of the magnitude of the magnetic field in an electromagnetic wave is Brms = 0.137 T. The intensity of this wave is approximately...

Homework Equations



E = cB
I = (ErmsBrms) / \mu0

The Attempt at a Solution



E = (3 x 108)(0.137 T) = 4.11 x 107 V/m
I = ((4.11 x 107 V/m)(0.137 T)) / (4\pi x 10-7) = 4.47 x 1012 W/m2

I keep re-doing this problem and I keep coming up with that same answer, but it is not one of the answer choices. Can anyone give me a clue as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, I appreciate it.
 
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KKuff said:

Homework Statement


Hi, here is the problem I'm having trouble with:

The rms value of the magnitude of the magnetic field in an electromagnetic wave is Brms = 0.137 T. The intensity of this wave is approximately...

Homework Equations



E = cB
I = (ErmsBrms) / \mu0

The Attempt at a Solution



E = (3 x 108)(0.137 T) = 4.11 x 107 V/m
I = ((4.11 x 107 V/m)(0.137 T)) / (4\pi x 10-7) = 4.47 x 1012 W/m2

I keep re-doing this problem and I keep coming up with that same answer, but it is not one of the answer choices. Can anyone give me a clue as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, I appreciate it.

The second formula you are using:

I = (ErmsBrms) / \mu0

specifically refers to Brms while the first

E = cB

Just refers to B.

Does that mean you should change the RMS value into some other type of value before substituting?

Not claiming that is correct, just a thought.
 
Thanks for the reply.
I believe that that formula works both for rms values and peak values.

This should give me the rms value of the electric field
E = (3 x 108)(0.137 T) = 4.11 x 107 V/m

If I convert the magnetic field rms value to peak I would get
Brms x \sqrt{}2 = Bpeak
0.137 T x \sqrt{}2 = 0.194 T

and using E = cB
Epeak = 5.82 x 107

and converting to rms
(5.82 x 107) / \sqrt{}2 = 4.11 x 107 V/m
 

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