Interesting deal with friction and energy

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The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving a block sliding down an inclined plane with a variable coefficient of friction that depends on the distance traveled. The problem requires analyzing forces, drawing graphs, and determining work done in the context of energy and friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the block and the relationship between friction and distance. There are attempts to derive equations for the normal force and frictional force, as well as to analyze the work done by friction. Some participants question the setup and seek verification of their algebraic manipulations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights and suggestions for approaching different parts of the question. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between forces and the conditions for equilibrium, though no consensus has been reached on a complete solution.

Contextual Notes

The problem constraints include the requirement to express all answers in terms of the given quantities and the unique nature of the friction coefficient, which complicates the analysis. There is an emphasis on verifying algebraic work and ensuring correct setups for the problem components.

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Hey everyone, I have a free response question concerning some rather simple mechanics presented in a ratheruh...interesting way. We have a block of mass M, that slides don a hill at an angle of theita. the block slides down the hill from rest at s=0 to the final position/distance s. Here's the catch. The coefficient of friction is u=as, where a is a constant and s is the distance down the hill. So its obvious that this is an incresingly rough incline.

a) Show all the forces acting on the block, in terms of only what's given (and g)
b) Draw a frictional force versus distance graph
c) Fins the area under the graph to deteminr the work done on the block
d) Find out how far the block slides down the hill

This is a doosey. I understand the setup for all of the steps,but the problem comes in verifying my algebra and making sure I am using the right setup. all answers must be expressed in terms of the quantities given. I got some answers, most importantly that the distance is tan(theita)/a. Will someone help me OUT?!
 
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For b) just find the normal force and write a linear equation with the friction, distance, and normal (f(s)=N*a*s)
c) simple geometry
d) check when the friction is greater than the componant of gravity that's pulling the block down the hill.
 
DaMastaofFisix said:
I got some answers, most importantly that the distance is tan(theita)/a.
It looks like you solved for the point where the friction force equals the component of gravity down the slope; instead, find the point where the change in gravitational PE equals the work done by the friction force.
 
Thanks guys, helped a whole bunch. I new I was on the right track, but I got stuck at the crossroads. Thanks a bunch. Next post coming up will be thw work that I've done.
 

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