Interpreting Hydrogen Atom Wave Functions: A Question of Correctness?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of wave functions for a hydrogen atom, specifically focusing on the Schrödinger equation and the normalization of wave functions. Participants are examining the correctness of a proposed wave function and the implications of its components.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the normalization condition for the wave function and question the validity of an imaginary constant in the context of the problem. There is a discussion about the implications of coefficients in a linear combination of wave functions and their normalization.

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Some participants have provided insights into the normalization conditions and the nature of coefficients in wave functions. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the original poster's approach is consistent with the requirements of the problem, with some expressing doubts about the correctness of the results obtained.

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Homework Statement



I solved the Schrödinger equation, obtaining a wave function in terms of Radial and the spherical harmonics as follows:

$$Ψ(r,0)= AR_{10} Y_{00} + \sqrt{\frac23} R_{21} Y_{10} + \sqrt{\frac23} R_{21} Y_{11} - \sqrt{\frac23} R_{21} Y_{1,-1}$$


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The constant A is equal to i; is this result right or not?
 
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Please provide a problem statement.
But I doubt the constant is going to be imaginary - what is your reasoning?
 
The states is more to write but I make a print screen.

http://www.gfxroad.com/print-wf
 
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I can see why you didn;t want to write that down ;)
See the line below the equation where it says "where A is a real constant..."?
Your question:
The constant A is equal to i; is this result right or not?
... is answered.

You seem to be trying to answer part (b).
What is the condition that must be satisfied for ##\psi(\vec r,0)## to be normalized?
 
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∫ψψ*dτ=1
 
Very good ... imagine you had ##\psi = a\psi_a + b\psi_b## ... where ##\psi_a## and ##\psi_b## are already normalized. In order for ##\psi## to be normalized, ##a## and ##b## need to satisfy a condition ... what is it?
 
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a2+b2=1
 
Well done.
Technically: ##a^*a+b^*b=1## in case you have complex coefficients.

Now imagine you have:

##\qquad \psi = a\psi_a + \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}\psi_b + \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}\psi_c - \sqrt{\frac{2}{3}}\psi_d##

... now your problem is that to get ##|\psi|^2=1## it looks like you have ##a^2+2=1 \implies a=\sqrt{-1}##

But you are told that ##a## is real so this is a contradiction.
Anyway, if ##a=i##, then ##a^*a= (-i)i = -i^2=1## not the -1 you were looking for.

In fact, is there even a solution for ##a^*a=-1##?

Therefore - what does this tell you about your approach?
Did you properly account for the R and Y functions?
i.e. is ##\psi_{nlm}=R_{nl}Y_{lm}## normalized already?
... did you do part (a) correctly?
 
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Yes, I thought part a was done correctly like:
http://www.gfxroad.com/print2
 
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Yeah, I'm getting the same thing ... I have a nagging feeling there's a wrinkle here I'm missing but on the face of it the textbook problem has no solution.

It may be that the text-book has a typo.
 
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What's about e branch, is there any starting point or equation for this, because I don't know where can I starting. The other branches solved correctly.
 
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For (e) ##\text H\psi_{nlm}=E_n\psi_{nlm}##

What do you mean "correctly"? Do you have model answers?
 

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