Intersection of all sets in a family of sets

In summary, the conversation is discussing the concept of compactness and how it relates to the intersection of elements in a set. It is noted that in order for the intersection of all elements in a set to also be in the set, the set must have the finite intersection property. This means that every finite collection of elements in the set must have a non-empty intersection. If the elements of the set are finite, then it is implied that there is a smallest element which is the intersection of all elements in the set. However, compactness requires the specification of a topology, which is a mathematical structure, and it is only true that any finite set is compact in any topology.
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Werg22
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Say there's a family of set M with infinitely many elements with the property that whenever X and Y belong to M, so does their intersection. How to justify that the intersection of all elements in in M, N, (interpreted here as the largest subset common to every element in M) is also in M? Since N can't be constructed in finite number of steps, I'm having trouble seeing what justifies the conclusion. Maybe there's a way to establish the existence of two elements in M whose intersection is exactly N?
 
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Hi Werg22! :smile:

If M is all the subsets [0,x) of the set [0,1],

then N is {0}, which is not in M.
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi Werg22! :smile:

If M is all the subsets [0,x) of the set [0,1],
For x> 0. Without that [0, 0]= {0} is in M.

then N is {0}, which is not in M.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
For x> 0. Without that [0, 0]= {0} is in M.

I agree that the example requires x > 0, but wouldn't [0, 0) = {}?
 
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I see, thanks for the counter-example tiny-tim. What if all the elements of M are finite?
 
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Oh, silly me. If the elements of M are finite, it implies that there is a smallest element, making it the intersection of all elements in M (keeping in mind that the intersection of two sets in M is also in M).
 
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It looks to me like you are talking about the "finite intersection property" which requires compactness: If every finite collection of a family of compact sets is non-empty, then the intersection of all sets in the family is non-empty".

Generally, "compact" requires the specification of a topology but it is true that any finite set is compact in any topology.
 

1. What is the intersection of all sets in a family of sets?

The intersection of all sets in a family of sets is the set that contains all elements that are common to every set in the family. In other words, it is the set of elements that are present in every set in the family.

2. How is the intersection of all sets in a family of sets represented?

The intersection of all sets in a family of sets can be represented using set notation, where the symbol ∩ (intersection) is used to denote the operation of finding the common elements between sets. For example, if A, B, and C are sets in a family of sets, the intersection of all sets can be written as A ∩ B ∩ C.

3. What is the purpose of finding the intersection of all sets in a family of sets?

The purpose of finding the intersection of all sets in a family of sets is to identify the common elements among all sets in the family. This can be useful in various applications, such as data analysis, where the intersection can provide insights into relationships between different sets of data.

4. Can the intersection of all sets in a family of sets be an empty set?

Yes, it is possible for the intersection of all sets in a family of sets to be an empty set. This occurs when there are no common elements among the sets in the family. In such cases, the intersection is denoted by the symbol ∅ (empty set).

5. Are there any properties or rules that apply to the intersection of all sets in a family of sets?

Yes, there are several properties and rules that apply to the intersection of all sets in a family of sets. Some of these include the commutative property (A ∩ B = B ∩ A), the associative property (A ∩ (B ∩ C) = (A ∩ B) ∩ C), and the distributive property (A ∩ (B ∪ C) = (A ∩ B) ∪ (A ∩ C)).

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