Intersection of ellipses and equivalent problems

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Determining whether two ellipses intersect can be simplified without solving complex 4th order polynomials. The discussion highlights the use of discriminants and Cartesian coordinates to transform the problem into a more manageable quadratic equation. The proposed method involves substituting one ellipse's equation into the other, ultimately leading to a numerical solution using online tools. This approach streamlines the intersection determination process significantly.

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Does anyone know how to determine whether two ellipses intersect? I don't need the precise points but rather only the answer whether there are points. All my attempts led to 4th order polynomials, which are heavy to solve, but considering that I don't need the actual points I assume there must be an easier way.

Some guy claims it's doable
http://www.cut-the-knot.org/htdocs/dcforum/DCForumID6/710.shtml

Here are some equivalent problems which have to be solved for the angles (which however I can't solve either...)
\cos\phi+a\sin\theta=x
\sin\phi+b\cos\theta=y
or even
\Re(e^{i\theta}(1+ze^{i\theta}))=q
where z is complex, is an equivalent problem. Any ideas?

My best attempt so far was using discriminants, but it's messy and I made a mistake somewhere...
 
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I would eliminate the angles by squaring and write the equations in Cartesian coordinates. Then we have still a quadratic equation in two variables, which one can be normalized by a coordinate transformation, such that we end up with ##y=\pm \frac{b}{a}\sqrt{a^2-x^2}## with one of the two ellipsis. This can be substituted into the other equation, such that we have only one equation in ##x##. It is probably easiest to determine it numerically by one the tools available on the internet.
 

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