Interval Notation: h(x)=1/x, Domain R-0

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of interval notation for the function h(x) = 1/x, specifically addressing its domain, which excludes 0. Participants seek clarification on how to express this domain using open intervals and the implications of including or excluding endpoints, particularly in relation to infinity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that the domain R excluding 0 can be represented in interval notation as the union of two intervals: (-∞, 0) and (0, +∞).
  • There is a discussion on the meaning of open intervals, where some participants note that open intervals do not include their endpoints, which is relevant for understanding the notation used for infinity.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the use of brackets in interval notation, particularly how they indicate inclusion or exclusion of endpoints.
  • Several participants clarify that "[" or "]" indicate inclusion of endpoints, while "(" and ")" indicate exclusion, with specific examples provided for clarity.
  • One participant raises a question about the interpretation of infinity in interval notation, noting that it is treated differently than real numbers, leading to further exploration of this concept.
  • Another participant asserts that one always uses "(" with -∞ and ")" with +∞, emphasizing that these symbols represent unbounded limits rather than actual numbers.

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Participants generally agree on the basic principles of interval notation and its representation of domains. However, there remains some confusion and differing interpretations regarding the treatment of infinity and the inclusion/exclusion of endpoints, indicating that the discussion is not fully resolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the correct interpretation of intervals involving infinity, particularly in relation to their use in mathematical expressions and inequalities.

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If an example was written;

h(x) = 1/x and the function h has domain R excluding 0, could somebody please explain how the two open intervals include (- infinity, 0) and (0, infinity)?

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Casio said:
If an example was written;

h(x) = 1/x and the function h has domain R excluding 0, could somebody please explain how the two open intervals include (- infinity, 0) and (0, infinity)?

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Hi Casio,

You already said the domain was all real numbers except 0. To represent that in interval notation you would use the union of the two intervals you have.

$$ (- \infty, 0) \cup (0, +\infty)$$

And this says the domain includes all real numbers less than 0 together with all real numbers greater than 0. Zero is excluded in the notation by using paretheses instead of brackets.
 
An interval is 'open' if it doesn't include the extremes... $- \infty$ isn't a number and 0 isn't included...the same is for 0 and $+\infty$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
Thanks again for all replies, it's my confusion. Because I can see then written in the brackets it was confusing I couldn't understand why they are there?

Although they are included in the brackets, and I can see them there, they are not included, which is what confused me.
 
In general interval notation, "[" or "]" mean "include this endpoint" while "(" and ")" mean "do not include this endpoint".

[a, b] means "all numbers between a and b and a and b themselves".
In set notation: [a, b]= \{ x| a\le x\le b\}

(a, b) means "all numbers between a and b not including a and b".
In set notation: (a, b)= \{ x| a< x< b\}

[a, b) means "all numbers between a and b including a but not b".
In set notation: [a, b]= \{ x| a\le x< b\}

(a, b] means "all numbers between a and b including b but not a".
In set notation: [a, b]= \{ x| a< x\le b\}
 
HallsofIvy said:
In general interval notation, "[" or "]" mean "include this endpoint" while "(" and ")" mean "do not include this endpoint".

[a, b] means "all numbers between a and b and a and b themselves".
In set notation: [a, b]= \{ x| a\le x\le b\}

(a, b) means "all numbers between a and b not including a and b".
In set notation: (a, b)= \{ x| a< x< b\}

[a, b) means "all numbers between a and b including a but not b".
In set notation: [a, b]= \{ x| a\le x< b\}

(a, b] means "all numbers between a and b including b but not a".
In set notation: [a, b]= \{ x| a< x\le b\}

Very much appreciated for the help and effort you have put into this thread. May I expand and ask additonal questions in relation to what you have wrote above please.

In your first line of set notation, this I read to mean that the interval is closed.

In your second line of set notation, this I read to mean the interval is open.

In your third line of set notation, this I read to mean the interval is half open or half closed.

In your forth line of set notation, this I read to mean the interval is also open or half closed.

The round bracket being open and the square bracket being closed.

If I am understanding the above correctly, the inequalities when used with real numbers would be used as the domain, and if by example I said;

-1 < x < -3 this would be a closed interval and could be written [-1, -3]

The problem I can't understand at the present is in the use of infinity, whether that be positive or negative infinity and how to correctly interpret it in the use of solutions to questions?
 
Casio said:
The problem I can't understand at the present is in the use of infinity, whether that be positive or negative infinity and how to correctly interpret it in the use of solutions to questions?
One always use (-\infty,0] and (0.\infty) i.e. with infinity we use ( or ).

(-\infty,0] is the set of all real numbers less than or equal to zero.

(0,\infty) is the set of all real numbers greater than zero.

Notice how in the first case ] is inclusive and in the second ( is exclusive.
 
We always use "(" with -\infty and ")" with \infty because those are not "numbers" in the usual sense. They are only symbols mean "no lower bound" and "no upper bound".
 

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