Intrinsic spin stern-gerlach application

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The discussion revolves around the application of intrinsic spin in quantum mechanics, specifically relating to a particle with spin-1/2 in the context of the Stern-Gerlach experiment. Participants are examining expressions related to the measurement of spin operators and their implications for uncertainty in quantum measurements.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to interpret mathematical expressions involving spin operators and their measurements. Questions arise regarding the meaning of specific terms in the context of quantum uncertainty and the implications of measuring spin along different axes.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the mathematical expressions and the uncertainty principle. Some participants suggest that the expressions represent standard deviation and uncertainty in measurements, while others are clarifying the implications of measuring spin in different orientations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the constraints of measuring spin simultaneously along different axes, as well as referencing specific equations from a textbook, indicating a reliance on established quantum mechanics principles.

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find the following:

if a particle (s=1/2) is prepared such that it is in the spin up state |f>=|z+>

what do the following mean? [<f|(Sz - <z+|Sz|f>1)^2|f>]^½ and
[<f|(Sx - <f|Sx|f>1)^2|f>]^½


The middle term sandwiched between the states is squared and the whole term being square rooted.

my guess: For the first one the measurement is repeated knowing the particle is in state |z>, you measure Sz- (which should be zero, but that's not what iam getting) so iam kind of lost.
 
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If I rewrite the first formula as
\sqrt{\langle(S_z - \langle S_z \rangle)^2\rangle}
do you recognize that expression?
 
uncertainty principle?
 
after that use eqn 2.65 from desai textbook
 
physics2004 said:
uncertainty principle?
It's related to that, yes. Actually that is an expression for the uncertainty, or more precisely the standard deviation.

Is that what you meant?
 
i guess they want you to show that there is an uncertainty when measuring the spin. U cannot measure the spin simultaneously in both x and z axis
 

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