Measuring sum of two components of spin angular momentum

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The discussion focuses on measuring the sum of the x and z components of spin angular momentum for a spin-1/2 particle, specifically using the operators Sx and Sz. The calculations show that both (Sx + Sz) | up > and (Sx + Sz) | down > yield a result of zero, indicating a misunderstanding of the measurement process. The key takeaway is that the eigenvalues of the operators cannot be simultaneously measured due to their non-commuting nature, and the results of measurements correspond to the eigenvalues of the respective observable operators.

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Homework Statement



What are the possible results of the measurement of the sum of the x and z components of the spin angular momentum of a spin-1/2 particle?

Sx = Spin angular momentum operator x
Sz = Spin angular momentum operator x


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The Attempt at a Solution



I started by applying the spin-up eigenket to the sum of the spin angular momentum operators.

(Sx + Sz) | up > = Sx | up > + Sz | up > = -1/2h_bar + 1/2h_bar = 0

The text I'm using proves that Sx | up > = 1/2h_bar | down >
and like wise Sx | down > = 1/2h_bar | up >

Does this mean if you were to probe the particle for spin up in the x direction you would actually see spin down?

then I applied the spin down eigen-ket to pull the possible eigenvalues from the operators.

(Sx + Sz) | down > = Sx | down > + Sz | down > = +1/2h_bar + (-1/2h_bar) = 0

I feel that there is something wrong with how I've gone about calculating this.. I know that Sx and Sz don't commute therefore you cannot measure their eigenvalues simultaneously. Since I get zero did I show this correctly?

Also, the eigenkets for spin up and spin down are considered the eigenvectors, correct?

I am still trying to get the hang of the linear algebra and what everything means so any help would be amazing!

Thanks
 
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One problem with your work is that saying, for example, that ##\hat{S}_x \lvert \text{up} \rangle = \frac{\hbar}{2}## doesn't make sense. This is akin to writing
$$\frac{\hbar}{2}\begin{pmatrix} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} = \frac{\hbar}{2}.$$ The lefthand side is a vector, but the righthand side is a scalar.

Does this mean if you were to probe the particle for spin up in the x direction you would actually see spin down?
No. Rid yourself of the notion that taking a measurement means applying the associated operator to a state.

The result of a measurement is one of the eigenvalues of the associated observable. Given the state of a particle, you can calculate the probability amplitude for a particular result by finding the projection of this state in the direction of the corresponding eigenstate. For example, if you were measuring the spin in the z-direction, you would need to know the eigenvalues of ##\hat{S}_z##, which are ##\pm \hbar/2##, and the corresponding eigenstates, ##\lvert + \rangle## and ##\lvert - \rangle##. If the particle is in state ##\psi##, the probability amplitude for finding the particle in the spin-up state is ##\langle + \vert \psi \rangle##, which is generally a complex number. The probability is given by square of the modulus of the amplitude.
 

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