Rotations of spins and of wavefunctions

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This discussion revolves around the intrinsic angular momentum (spin) of a particle with spin 1, specifically focusing on the relationships between the spin operators and their representations in different bases. The original poster presents a series of equations and matrix representations related to the spin operators Sx, Sy, and Sz, and seeks assistance in proving these relations and understanding the transformations involved.

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  • Participants discuss the use of rotation matrices in the context of angular momentum space, with some suggesting that the original poster's approach may not be suitable. There is mention of using unitary transformations to relate different spin operators. Others propose a matrix-less approach using ket notation to simplify the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing insights and alternative methods for tackling the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the appropriate rotation matrices and the potential for a different approach using ket notation. There is no explicit consensus on the best method yet.

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Participants note that the original poster may be struggling with the algebra involved in the problem and that there are constraints related to the specific representations of the spin operators being discussed.

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This is a question regarding the intrinsic angular momentum S of a particle of spin 1.
Assuming S = s(s+1)I = 2I and I is the identity operator. In our case s = 1.
Let |z> be a ket of norm 1 such that Sz |z> = 0, and let |x> and |y> be the ket vectors
obtained from it by rotations of + 1/2 Pi about the y-axis and − 1/2 Pi about the x-axis
respectively. Prove the following relations, as well as those resulting from circular
permutation of x, y, and z:
Sx |x> = 0 , Sx |y> = i|z> , Sxˆ2 |y> = |y> , Sx |z> = −i|y> , Sx2|z> = |z>
Use these to show that |x>, |y>, |y> form an orthonormal basis and that the matrices
representing Sx , Sy and Sz in that basis are:
Sx = \begin{bmatrix}
0 & 0 & 0 \\
0& 0 & -i\\
0&i &0
\end{bmatrix}
Sy = \begin{bmatrix}
0 & 0 & i \\
0& 0 & 0\\
-i&0 &0
\end{bmatrix}
Sz = \begin{bmatrix}
0 & -i & 0 \\
i& 0 & 0\\
0&0 &0
\end{bmatrix}
Show that the eigenvalues of Sz are the same as those of Jz , where Jz is the matrix
representation of the z component of the angular momentum in the |j m> basis, for
j = 1. Then find the most general unitary matrix that transforms
Sz into Jz : U Sz U† = Jz .Choose the arbitrary parameters in U so that it also
transforms Sx into Jx and Sy into Jy .
This problem can be found in Quantum Mechanics by Albert Messiah volume 1 chapter 8 problem 10 part ii and iii.
see attachment.
My humble attempt at the problem,
Used a rotation 3-d matrix for x,y,z or:
Rx = \begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0& cos(a) & -sin(a)\\
0&sin(a) &cos(a)
\end{bmatrix}
Ry = \begin{bmatrix}
cos(a) & 0 & sin(a) \\
0& 1 & 0\\
-sin(a)&0 &cos(a)
\end{bmatrix}
Rz = \begin{bmatrix}
cos(a) & -sin(a & 0 \\
sin(a) &cos(a) & 0\\
0&0 &1
\end{bmatrix}
After that substituting angle for x and y does not give me any meaning to go further. Probably I am starting in a wrong way. Help appreciated.
 

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Those rotation matrices aren't the correct ones for this problem. You need the ones that work on the angular momentum space.
 
vela said:
Those rotation matrices aren't the correct ones for this problem.
Why not? I seem to get the right answer by the unitary transform ##S_x = R_y S_z R_y^{\dagger}##.
 
I think one could also do this problem matrix-less and hence saving lots of space, instead only works with ket notations. For example for the first task to prove ##S_x|x\rangle = 0##, one can use the substitution ##|x\rangle = \exp(-iS_y \pi/2) |z\rangle##. Have tried following this path, unfortunately stuck with the involved algebra. By the way the OP seems to be long absent anyway.
 

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