Invariance of a spin singlet under rotation

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The discussion revolves around the invariance of a spin singlet state under rotation, specifically examining the mathematical representation of this concept using tensor products and rotation operators in quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the multiplication of vectors and matrices, questioning how to rearrange results to match the initial state. Some suggest writing results in terms of basis vectors and multiplying out tensor products, while others express confusion about the notation and the necessity of tensor products. There are discussions on the implications of rotation operators acting on spin states and the normalization of the singlet state.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on using tensor products and questioning assumptions about the need for these operations. Some participants have identified potential mistakes in calculations related to the unitary nature of rotation operators and the preservation of norms.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention a lack of familiarity with tensor products, indicating that this may be a new concept for them. There are also references to previous experiences with invariance under rotation about the z-axis, suggesting varying levels of understanding among participants.

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Homework Statement
Show that a spin singlet state remains the same under a rotation about the ##y##-axis by an angle ##\alpha##
Relevant Equations
##|\text{singlet}\rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|S_{1z}+\rangle |S_{2z}-\rangle - |S_{1z}-\rangle |S_{2z}+\rangle)##

##\mathcal{D_y(\alpha)} = e^{-i\sigma_y\alpha/2} =\mathsf{1}\cos(\alpha/2) - \sigma_y\sin(\alpha/2)##

##\mathcal{D_{1y}(\alpha)} \otimes \mathcal{D_{2y}(\alpha)} = e^{-i\sigma_{1y}\alpha/2} \otimes e^{-i\sigma_{2y}\alpha/2}##
I have tried doing the obvious thing and multiplied the vectors and matrices, but I don't see a way to rearrange my result to resemble the initial state again:

##(\mathcal{D_{1y}(\alpha)} \otimes \mathcal{D_{2y}(\alpha)} )|\text{singlet}\rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\left[
\begin{pmatrix}
\cos(\alpha/2)\\
\sin(\alpha/2)
\end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix}
-\sin(\alpha/2)\\
\cos(\alpha/2)
\end{pmatrix} - \begin{pmatrix}
-\sin(\alpha/2)\\
\cos(\alpha/2)
\end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix}
\cos(\alpha/2)\\
\sin(\alpha/2)
\end{pmatrix}\right] ##
 
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Write out the result in terms of the basis vectors and multiply out the tensor products! The equation makes not too much sense to me, because on the left-hand side you have a ket, and on the right-hand side some strange notation of components.
 
As @vanhees71 tells,you should use tensor product defined as:
$$S \otimes T= ST^T$$
Where S and T are vectors. Once you do this,do you recognise the matrix you got and how it affects singlet state?
 
vanhees71 said:
Write out the result in terms of the basis vectors and multiply out the tensor products! The equation makes not too much sense to me, because on the left-hand side you have a ket, and on the right-hand side some strange notation of components.

I'm not sure I understand why I need to do this. Don't the rotation operators act only the corresponding spin states in their Hilbert space, in which case I wouldn't need to find the tensor product? This worked for me when trying to show invariance under rotation about z, unless that was purely coincidental.

I've not done tensor products before having been assigned this problem so I'm pretty sure there should be a different way to do this.

I don't see the issue with the equation, I've written the kets in terms of their components because they are no longer simply spin up or down but a superposition of both.
 
So I've tried factoring out the eigenkets from the superposed kets in my equation, e.g. ##\cos(\alpha/2)|+\rangle + \sin(\alpha/2)|-\rangle##, and found out that most of the terms cancel. I ended up with the expression ##\cos(\alpha)|\text{singlet}\rangle##. Now I'm only unsure how to rationalize the factor of ##\cos(\alpha)##.
 
Then there must be some mistake since the rotation is of course a unitary operator, i.e., the norm of your singlet state cannot change.
 
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vanhees71 said:
Then there must be some mistake since the rotation is of course a unitary operator, i.e., the norm of your singlet state cannot change.

That's right; I missed a minus sign which normalized everything.
 
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