Invariancy of H(x,p) to translation and conservation of momentum

In summary, the relationship between invariancy of Hamiltonian to translation and conservation of momentum can be shown by considering the commutation relation between the momentum operator and the Hamiltonian. Using the exponentiated momentum operator, we can generate translations in a function and derive the transformation properties of the Hamiltonian. By invoking the translational invariance of the Hamiltonian and expanding the transformation law to first order, we can establish the commutation relation [p,H]=0, which demonstrates the connection between Hamiltonian invariancy and conservation of momentum in quantum mechanics.
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Ene Dene
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I have two similar questions.
1. Show the relationship between invariancy of hamiltonian to translation and conservation of momentum. (In QM)
2. Show the relationship between invariancy of hamiltonian to rotation and conservation of angular momentum. (In QM)
I have no idea how to prove this. I was wondering if I could use Heisenberg operator equation on momentum operator so I could prove that operator doesn't change with time, but I don't how to input hamiltonian invariancy to translation in equation and even then is that the real way of doing it.
 
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p is the infinitesimal generator of translations. So basically H(x+a)=exp(iap)H(x)exp(-iap). I'm being sloppy about the signs and factors of hbar here. Fix them please. If H(x)=H(x+a) (translation invariant) you can expand that relation at first order to conclude [p,H]=0. So translation invariance means p commutes with the Hamiltonian.
 
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I don't understand your answer. First, I don't understand why I need this:
H(x+a)=exp(iap)H(x)exp(-iap)
Second, how do I expand H in Taylor series (and why?) and how to connect that with [p,H]=0, and how does that prove the connection between hamiltonian invariantcy to translation and conservation of momentum?
 
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In the Schroedinger picture an observable is conserved iff it commutes with the time indep hamiltonian. So p is conserved iff [itex] [p,H]=0 [/itex].

exp(iap) is the operator for spatial translations. H(x) is the time indep hamiltonian.
 
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Ene Dene said:
I don't understand your answer. First, I don't understand why I need this:
H(x+a)=exp(iap)H(x)exp(-iap)
Second, how do I expand H in Taylor series (and why?) and how to connect that with [p,H]=0, and how does that prove the connection between hamiltonian invariantcy to translation and conservation of momentum?

You need to show that translation invariance of H means H commutes with p. To do this you notice that exp(a*d/dx)f(x)=f(x+a), since the left hand side is the power series expression of f(x+a). Now p is essentially d/dx. You can now use this to express the translated hamiltonian in terms of the original hamiltonian and the translation operator exp(iap) (like I said you'll need to throw some i's and hbar's around here). H(x+a)=exp(iap)H(x)exp(-iap) to lowest order is H(x+a)=(1+iap)H(x)(1-iap). If H(x+a)=H(x), what can you conclude about the commutator of H and p?
 
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Here is a nice derivation of how an we get the exponentiated operator to generate translations:

Consider the differentiable function f at x. Translating f to the right means changing the argument to get f(x-a). Now take the displacement a and cut it up in N pieces, each piece having length Dx. Hence N Dx = a. The translated function now reads f(x-Dx-Dx-...-Dx), where there are N Dx's. Take the definition of a derivative and rearrange it to read:

f(x-Dx) = f(x) - f'(x)*Dx
= [1 - Dx (d/dx)]f(x) in the limit as Dx ---> 0

Doing this procedure to the translated function gives us

f(x-a) = [1 - Dx (d/dx)]f(x-a+Dx)
= [1 - Dx (d/dx)][1 - Dx (d/dx)]f(x-a+2Dx)
= [1 - Dx (d/dx)][1 - Dx (d/dx)][1 - Dx (d/dx)]f(x-a+3Dx)
...
= [1 - Dx (d/dx)]^N f(x)
= [1 - a/N (d/dx)]^N f(x)

In quantum mechanics we learned that -i*hbar (d/dx) = p, the momentum operator. Hence we have

f(x-a) = [1 - iap/N ]^N f(x)

We now allow the number N to approach infinity, which basically means that we are subdividing the original interval a into an infinitum of infinitesimals. We then utilize the definition of the number e to see that

f(x-a) = exp(-iap)f(x)

Read from right to left, we have just discovered that the exponentiated momentum operator, when applied to a function, generates a translation. A similar thing can be done for the anguilar momentum operator, but you will need to consider a function of two variables, f(x,y), and examine how both x and y change when the function is rotated.

Now back to the Hamiltonian, H(x). How do we derive its transformation properties under translations? Consider the state vector |psi(x)>. To find the energy of this state we take the Dirac bracket of the Hamiltonian. The enregy of this state is independent of the origin of the coordinate system that we use, so we have

E = <psi(x)|H(x)psi(x)>
= <psi(x-a)|H(x-a)psi(x-a)>
= <exp(-iap)psi(x)|H(x-a)exp(-iap)psi(x)>
= <psi(x)|exp(iap)H(x-a)exp(-iap)psi(x)>

By examining the first and fourth lines we are lead to the transformation properties of the Hamiltonian

H(x) = exp(iap)H(x-a)exp(-iap) or H(x-a) = exp(-iap)H(x)exp(iap)

Now we do what the last post says. We invoke the translational invariance of the Hamiltonian, H(x)=H(x-a), expand the transformation law derived above to first order, and voila! We have the commutation ralation between the Energy and Momentum operators.
 
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Thanks I got it now!
 

What is the concept of invariancy in relation to "H(x,p)"?

Invariancy refers to the principle that the Hamiltonian function, denoted as H(x,p), remains unchanged under certain transformations. In particular, it does not change when the position (x) and momentum (p) variables are translated.

How does the invariancy of H(x,p) to translation relate to the conservation of momentum?

The invariancy of H(x,p) to translation is closely tied to the conservation of momentum. This is because the invariancy implies that the Hamiltonian function remains constant over time, which ultimately leads to the conservation of momentum as a physical law.

Why is the invariancy of H(x,p) to translation important in physics?

The invariancy of H(x,p) to translation is important because it is a fundamental principle that underlies many physical laws and theories. It allows for the conservation of momentum to be explained and understood, and it also has implications for other conservation laws, such as the conservation of energy.

What are the practical applications of the invariancy of H(x,p) to translation?

The invariancy of H(x,p) to translation has many practical applications in physics. For example, it is used in classical mechanics to describe the motion of particles and in quantum mechanics to describe the behavior of quantum systems. It also has applications in other fields, such as chemistry and engineering.

How is the invariancy of H(x,p) to translation related to symmetries in physical systems?

The invariancy of H(x,p) to translation is closely related to symmetries in physical systems. In particular, it is related to translational symmetry, which is the idea that the laws of physics remain unchanged when an object is moved from one position to another. This symmetry is a fundamental concept in physics and plays a crucial role in our understanding of the universe.

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