Inventions that never were patented

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The discussion centers on the role of patents in innovation, with participants questioning whether patents truly encourage development or if they inhibit it by concentrating wealth. Many argue that without patent protection, inventors risk losing their ideas to competitors, which discourages investment in new inventions. Examples are provided, such as Marie Curie's decision not to patent the radium isolation process to promote scientific progress, and the notion that some inventions, like KFC's secret recipe, thrive as trade secrets rather than patented technologies. The conversation highlights the complexity of patents, suggesting that in some cases, not patenting can offer better protection for proprietary information. Overall, the thread emphasizes the nuanced relationship between patents, innovation, and economic incentives.
  • #31
Jonas Salk refused to patent the polio vaccine because he's awesome.
 
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  • #32
rytmenpinne said:
You say Benjamin Franklin didn't invent anything? :) I've understood the bunson burner was never patented either? and as vici10 pointed out Marie curie didn't patent the radium isolation process..

I myself is actually in the process of developing a product that's based and very similar, but a big improvement over an old way of doing things, it's in a niche market(musical instruments) so it's not exactly something that's going to change the world... I'm pretty shure it's patentable tho, but I won't do it..

Now, I do very well understand that patents have a very noble cause, but the issues that comes with them by far outnumbers the benefits, anyone care to challange this statement?

Note that under current law in most countries if you do not patent your idea someone else can patent it and make it theirs. So your noble refusal to patent may only result in you losing control of your idea and someone else charging people for it.
 
  • #33
If I invent something (that does not need lots of money) and keep the whole invention process secret and do not want to employ my invention (although it may be useful) (maybe cause I did this for fun), then I don't see the point of patenting it.
 
  • #34
Normally I'd say that there is probably some sort of common sense protection keeping any random person from patenting something they didn't invent.

Then I saw Apple try to patent the rounded rectangle.
apple_design.jpg


Now I don't know what to think.
 
  • #35
TheStatutoryApe said:
Note that under current law in most countries if you do not patent your idea someone else can patent it and make it theirs. So your noble refusal to patent may only result in you losing control of your idea and someone else charging people for it.

And this simple nightmare scenario alone should have the lawmakers seriously reconsider heavily modifying the patent laws.. Nope, instead we get attemps at making these things even more locked down with legistlaion that is negotiated by corporations behind closed doors.(anyone remember ACTA?) This simply isn't sane...

Edit; neither is patenting round edges
 
  • #36
Max™ said:
Normally I'd say that there is probably some sort of common sense protection keeping any random person from patenting something they didn't invent.

Now I don't know what to think.
These are design patents. They have more to do with marketing. Usually inventions fall under the subject utility patents.

Utility Patent- Issued for the invention of a new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or a new and useful improvement thereof, it generally permits its owner to exclude others from making, using, or selling the invention for a period of up to twenty years from the date of patent application filing, subject to the payment of maintenance fees. Approximately 90% of the patent documents issued by the PTO in recent years have been utility patents, also referred to as "patents for invention."

Design Patent- Issued for a new, original, and ornamental design for an article of manufacture, it permits its owner to exclude others from making, using, or selling the design for a period of fourteen years from the date of patent grant. Design patents are not subject to the payment of maintenance fees.

Ref: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/taf/patdesc.htm


Obtaining a design patent offers more protection against others copying one's product.
 
  • #37
Astronuc said:
These are design patents. They have more to do with marketing. Usually inventions fall under the subject utility patents.

Yup. The UK calls them "registered designs" (or it used to - possibly the names have changed) and they are completely different from patents. They don't require any techincal originality, and they can be kept in force "for ever" by paying the renewal fees. The object is to prevent other companies from confusing the public that their products are really yours, by using the near-identical logos, packaging, brand names, etc.

FWIW the first design that was ever registered in the UK (about 125 years ago) is still registered and in use - it's the "red triangle" logo of the Bass Brewery.

They also have the advantage (at least in UK law) that enforcement through the courts is much quicker simpler and cheaper than using patent law.
 
  • #38
And are different from trade mark designs, like the coca cola bottle shape. Not sure bout UK though "design patents".

I wonder if something like a Corvette could get a "design patent" for the vehicles appearance.
 
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