Inverse of a Matrix - Understanding Why We Note Relatively Prime Expressions

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The discussion focuses on the necessity of noting that the polynomials \(\lambda^3 - 8\lambda\) and \(\lambda^2 + 1\) are relatively prime when applying the Euclidean algorithm. The Euclidean algorithm requires that the elements involved have a greatest common divisor (gcd) of 1, which confirms their relative primality. The participants clarify that while every two elements have a gcd, they are relatively prime if that gcd equals 1, and demonstrate that neither polynomial can be factored further with integer or rational coefficients.

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At the time 2:10, I don't understand why we have to note that \lambda^3 - 8\lambda and \lambda^2 + 1 are relatively prime.

Thanks in advance
 
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The Euclidean algorithm only works for relatively prime elements, so when he says that r(\lambda), q(\lambda) exists such that
r(\lambda)(\lambda^3-8\lambda)+q(\lambda)(\lambda^2+1)=1
he uses that they are relatively prime.
 
rasmhop said:
The Euclidean algorithm only works for relatively prime elements, so when he says that r(\lambda), q(\lambda) exists such that
r(\lambda)(\lambda^3-8\lambda)+q(\lambda)(\lambda^2+1)=1
he uses that they are relatively prime.

Thanks a lot, but...

1) We know that any two elements have a gcd, right? Can't we just use that formula with that gcd?


2) Also, how do we know if they are relatively prime?
 
Yes, every two elements of an integral domain have a "gcd". They are "relatively prime", by definition, if and only if that gcd is 1. In particular, the "diophantine" equation ax+ by= c has a solution for x and y if and only if any divisor of a and b is also a divisor of c (if n is a divisor of both a and b, a= np, b= nq, then, for any x, y, ax+ by= n(px+ qy) so n divides ax+ by and so must also divide c). In particular, if a and b have a common divisor, so they have a gcd, that also divides c, we can divide the entire equation by it to get a simpler equation in which the coefficients are relatively prime.

To answer your questions:
1) We know that any two elements have a gcd, right? Can't we just use that formula with that gcd?
We could but, if that gcd is not 1, it is always easier to divide through by gcd to get a simpler equation in which the gcd of the two coefficients is 1- i.e. in which they are relatively prime.

2) Also, how do we know if they are relatively prime?
By finding the gcd! Two elements are relatively prime if and only if their gcd is 1.

In your original post one of the elements was \lambda^3- 8\lambda= \lambda(\lambda^2- 8) and it is easy to see that \lambda^2- 8= 0 has no integer (or rational) roots so that cannot be factored further. Similarly \lambda^2+ 1 cannot be factored with integer (or even real) coefficients. Since they have no factors in common, they are relatively prime.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Yes, every two elements of an integral domain have a "gcd". They are "relatively prime", by definition, if and only if that gcd is 1. In particular, the "diophantine" equation ax+ by= c has a solution for x and y if and only if any divisor of a and b is also a divisor of c (if n is a divisor of both a and b, a= np, b= nq, then, for any x, y, ax+ by= n(px+ qy) so n divides ax+ by and so must also divide c). In particular, if a and b have a common divisor, so they have a gcd, that also divides c, we can divide the entire equation by it to get a simpler equation in which the coefficients are relatively prime.

To answer your questions:

We could but, if that gcd is not 1, it is always easier to divide through by it to get a simpler equation.


By finding the gcd! Two elements are relatively prime if and only if their gcd is 1.

Thanks a lot.
 

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