Investigating Slingshot Physics: Finding Distance as a Function of Displacement

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the displacement of an elastic band in a slingshot and the distance an attached object will travel. Participants explore the formulation of a mathematical equation that expresses distance as a function of elastic band displacement, while considering factors such as energy conservation and the effects of force.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is attempting to derive a formula that relates distance traveled to elastic band displacement, using principles of work and energy.
  • Another participant questions the assumption that the force of the elastic band is constant with distance and suggests using Hooke's law to measure force values for various pullback distances.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the original question, indicating a lack of clarity in the problem statement.
  • One participant notes that while force does not need to be included in the final equation, the "spring constant" k is necessary, highlighting that the relationship between force and stretch is not linear and varies with the degree of stretch.
  • A later reply presents a derived solution based on conservation of energy, equating elastic potential energy to kinetic energy, and provides a formula for distance in terms of mass and spring constant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the assumptions regarding the force of the elastic band or the clarity of the original question. Multiple viewpoints and approaches to the problem are presented, indicating ongoing exploration and debate.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the force of the elastic band and the neglect of friction and air resistance. The discussion also highlights the complexity of the relationship between force and displacement in elastic materials.

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I am investigating how the displacement of an elastic band affects the distance an attached object will travel (the relationship between how far back you pull a slingshot and the distance an object will travel). What I am trying to do is find a formula where distance traveled is a function of elastic band displacement (in other words, a formula which says "x = ... d..."), but I ended up very confused. I tried equation manipulation with the following equations:

W = F*d

W = ΔEKinetic

EKinetic = (1/2)*m*v2

and

EElastic Potential = (1/2)*k*x2

I got close to the final equation, but I couldn't make it. Here are a few things to keep in mind:

* In the final equation, where "x = ... d...", I don't want the force, F, to be in the equation.

* We are assuming that initial kinetic energy was 0 (meaning that the initial velocity was 0).

* We are assuming that the effects of friction and air resistance are negligible.

Thank you.
 
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I don't think the F of the elastic band is constant with distance.

You could try hooke's law on it and measure the F values for various distances of pullback.

Then you can use that to compute the work involved.
 
I didn't quite understand the question..
 
FredericChopin said:
In the final equation, where "x = ... d...", I don't want the force, F, to be in the equation.
You won't need F, but you will need the "sprint constant" k for the sling shot. Note this is an approximation, since the graph of force versus stretch of rubber bands is not a straight line, but a curve. Example graph from a wiki article, which is also somewhat idealized. Usually the slope for the initial stretch is steeper, then decreases to a near straight line, then increases again at the limit of stretch (permanent deformation can occur if stretched close to the limit):

Elastic_hysteresis.htm

Archived web page showing a stretch versus tension graph for latex rubber used to launch radio control gliders (tension at 300% is about 175 lbs per square inch cross sectional area):

rubberdata.htm
 
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Thank you very much, but I have found a solution:

First, due to conservation of energy, the elastic potential energy of the elastic band is equal to the kinetic energy of release. So:

EElastic Potential = (1/2)*k*x2

EKinetic = (1/2)*m*v2

(1/2)*k*x2 = (1/2)*m*v2

(1/2)*x2 = (m*v2)/(2k)

x2 = (2m*v2)/(2k)

x = √((m*v2)/(k))

By finding v2 using the equations of motion, the mass, m, will be the function of spring displacement, x, while v2 and k remain constant (v2 will change depending on the desired displacement for the object to travel in the x or y axis).
 

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