Investigating Wood Expansion/Contraction with Temperature

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The discussion revolves around investigating the expansion and contraction of wood in relation to temperature for an AS level physics coursework project. Participants explore methods for measuring strain in wood using strain gauges and consider various heating techniques while addressing potential challenges related to temperature and humidity control.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a constantan alloy strain gauge to measure strain, questioning if temperature variations will affect the gauge.
  • Another participant speculates that the strain gauge may deform more than the wood itself.
  • Some participants propose using hotplates for heating the wood but express concerns about the strain gauge's heat tolerance and the risk of burning the wood.
  • There is a suggestion to measure the wood's length optically through a box with a window, although the requirement to use a strain gauge is reiterated.
  • A participant raises the idea that humidity changes might have a greater effect on wood than temperature changes, noting that humidity affects the wood across the grain while temperature affects it along the grain.
  • Another participant proposes using an incubator to heat the wood while also suggesting the use of a Wheatstone bridge circuit to detect small resistance changes.
  • Concerns are raised about maintaining constant humidity while changing temperature, with a suggestion to use silica gel for humidity control.
  • One participant suggests using a water bath to heat the wood while ensuring consistent humidity, along with the need for a temperature sensor.
  • Questions arise about measuring changes in resistance, with suggestions to use an ohm meter and considerations about applying voltage across the circuit.
  • A participant shares a link to a strain gauge designed specifically for wood and reiterates the need for effective heating methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the best methods for heating the wood and measuring strain, with no consensus reached on a single approach. There is also uncertainty regarding the effects of temperature versus humidity on wood expansion and contraction.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about the behavior of strain gauges and wood under different conditions, including the effects of temperature and humidity, but do not resolve these uncertainties.

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hi, for my as level physics coursework i need to write a plan about investigating the expansion and contraction of wood in relation to temperature.
I think i'll use a constantan alloy strain gauge to measure the strain of the wood since i do not intend to measure a temperature range more extreme than -20 to +70 degrees centigrade, so the varying temperature should not affect the strain gauge too much. (right??) But I've been trying to research what would be the best way to heat the wood. Obviously i don't want to heat the connecting wires too much. Also I'm not sure whether i should be using a wheatstone bridge or not. I've read about it, and to be honest i don't understand.
any help much appreciated!

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Just guessing, but I would think the strain gauge would be deformed more than the wood.
 
I agree. That seems to be true after reading through the information.
 
i am stuck with the same problem.
some of my friends suggested using hotplates. but don't know if the strain gauge will withstand the heat or might the wood will burn.
i was also thinking of lowering the temperature than increasing it.
anyone else got any ideas!
 
Could you put it in a box with a window then measure the length optically?
 
I wonder if change of humidity would have more effect than the change of temperature?

Humidity would cause changes across the grain, whereas I assume that temperature might cause a change along the grain.

However, that's sheer speculation on my part.
 
dlgoff said:
Could you put it in a box with a window then measure the length optically?

we need to use a strain gauge.
got any ideas on how to heat the wood
 
i have a fine plan! how about u use an incubator from biology to heat ur wood? use a wheatstonebridge circuit too due to small changes in resistance!
 
sounds good. But will it keep the humidity constant as we are only meant to change the temperature if i am not mistaken
 
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ah but use silica gel, the stuff u get in ur new shoes, to control humidity;)
 
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I'd be thinking of measuring the strain optically, using a traveling microscope with a vernier scale. Your school/college will probably have some of these. Sorry, just saw you _have_ to use a strain gauge. Other than that I would say use as small a mass of wood as you can get away with without being silly. This way you can heat it up easier. With the humidity idea, how about go the other way? Immerse them all in water and use a water bath to heat it up, then do the measurement whilst still in the water. This way they all have the same humidity (if it's the same type of wood and soaked for same length of time). You would also need to carefully get a temperature sensor into the wood somehow. Just some thoughts.
 
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how do you measure the change in resistance?
i was thinking of using an ohm meter parallel to the gauge and also do i need to use a small voltage across the circuit?
i am confused! Normally don't you just take the material and measure the resistance directly using only an ohm meter??
please reply soon! need to finish it up
 
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hiya,., i need help on the best way to heat the wood..
ive found this website
tml.jp/e/product/strain_gauge/list/pflw_plw_list.html
its a strain gage specially for wood,. there others on there aswell,,.
but can anyone think of a good way to heat the wood??

xx
ta
 

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