Investigating Wood Expansion/Contraction with Strain Gauges

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The discussion revolves around designing a laboratory experiment to investigate how the resistance of a strain gauge attached to wood varies with temperature changes. Participants express confusion regarding the experimental setup and the principles involved, particularly in relation to measuring resistance and temperature effects on wood.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods for attaching strain gauges and setting up circuits, including quarter bridge and Wheatstone bridge configurations. Questions arise about how to measure resistance changes with temperature and how to effectively heat the wood for the experiment.

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Several participants are actively seeking help and expressing their confusion about the experiment's requirements. Some suggest using different circuit configurations, while others highlight the challenges of measuring small resistance changes and the need for appropriate equipment. There is a general exploration of ideas without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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Participants mention constraints such as limited access to school lab equipment and the need to control various factors during the experiment. Safety precautions related to heating the wood are also noted, indicating a concern for practical implementation.

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hi I've just been given this piece of coursework which is the latest(2008) version and I am just wondering if I could get any help on this? thnx! :cheesy grin:

The manufacturers of wood floors need to know how much the wood expands and contracts with changes in humidity and temperature. One way of detecting expansion or contraction is to use a strain gauge.
You are required to design a laboratory experiment to investigate how the resistance of a strain gauge attached to a piece of wood varies with the temperature of the wood.
You should draw a diagram of the apparatus, and in your account you should pay particular attention to:
(a) the procedure to be followed
(b) how the strain gauge would be attached to the wood
(c) the range and precision of any instruments that would be used
(d) the factors that would need to be controlled to ensure that it is a valid test
(e) any safety precautions you would take when carrying out the experiment
(f) particular features of the design that would ensure the accuracy and reliability of your results

any help on this would be great!
 
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I'm doin' this one too...
 
I'm also doing this one, although I have no idea where to begin :confused:
 
please , i need some help

:cry:

I`ve got the same physics planning exercise and now i am totally confused and I do not know what to do.
I was thinking about attaching my foil strain gauge to piece of wood and then to set up guarter bridge circuit where on resistor would be at the same resistance like foil strain gauge and the another two resistors will be at the same resistance to each other, then circuit will be balanced and voltmeter reading will be zero.But only two wires will be connected in series to gauge.
With different effects of temperature, strain gauge will be tensed, so its resistance will change...but my problem is , I really don't know how to measure resistance then with different temperature...i just don't get it...it makes me so sad, cos I am trying already for a long time...


Please help me someone, also i don't know how to change temperature of wood, i think i would need at least 5 different temperatures...


Thanks for help:smile:
 
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Guys? could you somebody look at it please, i urgently need your help.Thanks again.
Janka said:
:cry:

I`ve got the same physics planning exercise and now i am totally confused and I do not know what to do.
I was thinking about attaching my foil strain gauge to piece of wood and then to set up guarter bridge circuit where on resistor would be at the same resistance like foil strain gauge and the another two resistors will be at the same resistance to each other, then circuit will be balanced and voltmeter reading will be zero.But only two wires will be connected in series to gauge.
With different effects of temperature, strain gauge will be tensed, so its resistance will change...but my problem is , I really don't know how to measure resistance then with different temperature...i just don't get it...it makes me so sad, cos I am trying already for a long time...


Please help me someone, also i don't know how to change temperature of wood, i think i would need at least 5 different temperatures...


Thanks for help:smile:
 
Janka said:
:cry:

I`ve got the same physics planning exercise and now i am totally confused and I do not know what to do.
I was thinking about attaching my foil strain gauge to piece of wood and then to set up guarter bridge circuit where on resistor would be at the same resistance like foil strain gauge and the another two resistors will be at the same resistance to each other, then circuit will be balanced and voltmeter reading will be zero.But only two wires will be connected in series to gauge.
With different effects of temperature, strain gauge will be tensed, so its resistance will change...but my problem is , I really don't know how to measure resistance then with different temperature...i just don't get it...it makes me so sad, cos I am trying already for a long time...


Please help me someone, also i don't know how to change temperature of wood, i think i would need at least 5 different temperatures...


Thanks for help:smile:

I'm doing the same thing.. Stuck on the same issue about resistance.. and also temperature.. How can you measure the temperature of the wood..?

I am going to heat my wood by using a lab oven
 
@Jitman
Where would the wires go if its in the oven?...

@Janka
Plus shouldn't you be using a wheatstone bridge not a quarter bridge...?

Im stuck on the same part...temperature as well

Isnt there any component that can be attached to a surface of a metal used to heating the wood to detect temperature?
 
Hello !
Could I set up just simple electric circuit instead of that quarter-bridge strain gauge one?
Can I just connect my foil strain gauge to power pack, and just connect ampmeter to circuit, also voltmeter around my strain gauge?
I then i would use only simple formula like R=V/I to calculate my resistance with increasing temperatures.
Is it possible in the case of electric circuit with the strain gauge?
 
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tekku said:
@Jitman
Where would the wires go if its in the oven?...

@Janka
Plus shouldn't you be using a wheatstone bridge not a quarter bridge...?

Im stuck on the same part...temperature as well

Isnt there any component that can be attached to a surface of a metal used to heating the wood to detect temperature?

You heat the wood up first.. Remove it from the lab oven, obviously wearing oven gloves (can be talked about in the safety precautions) then connect the wood into your circuit and measure the readings you need.. You need a range of temperature readings.. Read the question again:
Design an experiment to investigate how resistance of a strain gauge attached to a piece of wood varies with the temperature of the wood
 
  • #11
From my research i know that the change in reistance from the strain gauge is small so its pretty hard to measure it lol...you definatly need the wheatstone bridge so that it can sense small changes in resistance since it somehow amplifies the small resistance into a voltmeter reading or something...

This planning is like impossible...the school proberbly need to buy new equipment to measure this...since we're only allowed to use avaible school lab equips

EDIT:

@Jitman:
But how would you know the temperature of the wood as it drops? Stick a themometer up it? lol
 
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Janka said:
Hello !
Could I set up just simple electric circuit instead of that quarter-bridge strain gauge one?
Can I just connect my foil strain gauge to power pack, and just connect ampmeter to circuit, also voltmeter around my strain gauge?
I then i would use only simple formula like R=V/I to calculate my resistance with increasing temperatures.
Is it possible in the case of electric circuit with the strain gauge?

I'm not sure if that would really work tbh.. Don't think it would be balanced.. But then again I'm not sure
 
  • #13
tekku said:
From my research i know that the change in reistance from the strain gauge is small so its pretty hard to measure it lol...you definatly need the wheatstone bridge so that it can sense small changes in resistance since it somehow amplifies the small resistance into a voltmeter reading or something...

This planning is like impossible...the school proberbly need to buy new equipment to measure this...since we're only allowed to use avaible school lab equips

EDIT:

@Jitman:
But how would you know the temperature of the wood as it drops? Stick a themometer up it? lol

Thats what some people said.. But it sounds stupid.. I'm not sure about it.. But yeah the cicuit you use should amplify the small resistance into a voltmeter reading which can then be used to calculate resistance by R=V/I
 
  • #14
You know what I am just gona stick a themometer in the wood and heat it up on a bunsen burner...

the planning is so hard i just hope the experiements aint this hard lol...
 
  • #15
tekku said:
You know what I am just gona stick a themometer in the wood and heat it up on a bunsen burner...

the planning is so hard i just hope the experiements aint this hard lol...

Lol just make sure you don't burn your wood into ashes..
We aren't going to be doing this experiment for our actual thing.. According to my teacher
 
  • #16
Jitman said:
Lol just make sure you don't burn your wood into ashes..
We aren't going to be doing this experiment for our actual thing.. According to my teacher

Yeh i am doing this planning exercise too, you don't actually do the experiment, it's just a plan which goes with the rest of your practical exam, which are different experiments to the one we are planning in this exercise.
 

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