Ion Trap and Time-Varying Potentials

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The discussion centers on the complexities of ion traps, specifically addressing a simplified model of a resonating charged particle within an ion trap as presented in a Physics Olympiad textbook. The analysis reveals that the model neglects critical factors such as gravity and fringing electric fields, leading to potential inaccuracies. The energy of the system is expressed through a coupled oscillator model, where the total energy remains constant despite the oscillating electric field. Ultimately, the conclusion drawn is that the model does not accurately represent a coupled ion trap, as it simplifies to standard LC oscillations without considering the particle's influence.

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Ion traps are very complex, but one of my Physics Olympiad textbooks (this is not homework) presents a simplified model of a resonating charged particle in an ion trap which according to me is wrong, there is either something missing or something overspecified here.


A tuned circuit consists of an inductor and a parallel plate capacitor (capacitance C and plate separation d). It has a resonating frequency $$\nu _{o}$$ What will be the resonating frequency if a particle P of mass m and charge q is inserted in the middle of the capacitor plates.
Neglect effects of gravity, fringing of electric field, and electrostatic images.

So they basically neglected all obvious means (possible disaster due to this) of interaction, the only thing I can think of is the charge's contribution to displacement current being the mode of interaction. But I won't be working with forces, but rather energy.
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Since this is a coupled oscillator, I can write the energy of the system at any instant as

$$\frac{1}{2} LI^{2} +\frac{1}{2}\frac{Q^{2}}{C} +\frac{1}{2} mv^{2} +U( x,t) ={E _{total}} =Constant$$

Where $$U( x,t)$$ is the potential energy as a function of position (x) of charge from the middle of the capacitor and/or time (t) (bear with me, I know potentials are senseless in time-varying fields but we can get rid of any explicit time dependence). Since the charges on the capacitor plates are oscillating, defining potential energy the usual way seemed tough as there is a dependence on time, however since the system is coupled, time dependence is implicit and can be reduced to pure position dependence, hence allowing us to reason why the energy is conserved.

With this in mind, let's define all variables in the system as explicit functions of x, which is further a function of t. By doing this, the time-dependent electric field perfectly converts to a position-dependent field which looks like a static field hence allowing us to define potential energy. We will not consider the energy density of this new static field as its an imaginary construct.

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The imaginary static field points towards the reference line at all times and has a varying magnitude that increases as we move towards one of the plates.

Now it's obvious, for resonance to take place we need stable oscillations with a restoring force, hence assuming the particle has a positive charge, when the particle is moving away from the mean position, it will move towards the positive plate, and when it is moving towards the mean position it will move towards the negative plate.

Therefore
$$U( x,t) =U( x) =\int _{0}^{x}\frac{Q_{y} q}{A\epsilon _{o}} .dy$$
I used y as a free variable and x as a bound variable to avoid confusion while differentiating.

Since the system is closed (no resistance or radiation), I can say that at any position (x) of a particle, the total energy remains the same (not sure about this one, there is a magnetic field of displacement current, which oscillates, so there has to be some sort of energy propagation)

$$\frac{d( E_{Total})}{dx} =0\ \ \Longrightarrow \ LI\frac{d( I)}{dx} +\frac{Q}{C}\frac{d( Q)}{dx} +mv\frac{d( v)}{dx} +\frac{d( U( x))}{dx} =0$$

$$mv\frac{d(v)}{dx} =-\frac{Q q}{A\epsilon _{o}} =force\ on\ charged\ particle$$

$$\frac{d( U( x))}{dx} =\frac{d\left(\int _{0}^{x}\frac{Q_{y} q}{A\epsilon _{o}} .dy\right)}{dx} =\frac{Q q}{A\epsilon _{o}} \ \ ( by\ Leibnitz\ rule\ of\ differentiation\ under\ the\ integral)$$

$$\frac{d( E_{Total})}{dx} =\ LI\frac{d( I)}{dx} +\frac{Q}{C}\frac{d( Q)}{dx} -\frac{Q q}{A\epsilon _{o}} +\frac{Q q}{A\epsilon _{o}} =0\Longrightarrow LI\frac{d( I)}{dx} +\frac{Q}{C}\frac{d( Q)}{dx} =0$$

Ok cool, this got a lot less interesting since this just simplifies to the usual LC oscillations equation completely decoupled from the particle's motion.

This is not a coupled ion trap, it's just a particle in an oscillating field over which it has no control. So does that mean the question is wrong, or should we consider induced current due to charge on one of the electrodes to get the right answer
 

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I forgot to write that the answer at the back says something completely otherwise (its only an answer and not a solution)

\sqrt{\ \frac{\ \nu _{o}^{2}}{2} +\sqrt{\left(\frac{\ \nu _{o}^{2}}{2}\right)^{2} +\frac{q^{2} \nu _{o}^{2}}{4\pi ^{2} d^{2} mC}}}
 

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